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Yet more SYG shit.

Florida continues to reach new heights of “I can’t believe that actually happened. You have to be kidding me. Really? …” ***cringing in stunned silence***

Yahoo news is reporting today that the FL legislature is in the process of voting to EXPAND SYG:

<blockquote>On Thursday, a National Rifle Association-backed bill to expand the state’s self-defense statutes sailed through a key state House committee with bipartisan support. It is expected to pass the full chamber. …it amends “stand your ground” to include the threat of force, not just the use of force itself</blockquote>

Of course, this goes on top of the “no duty to repeat” and “it’s irrelevant whether the defendent was actually in danger as long as he believed he was in danger” parts. So, if this expansion had been in effect during the Dunn trial, Dunn wouldn’t have needed to claim that Jordan exited the car, or even that Jordan brandished a gun. He could just have said, “He said he was going to kill me, and he sure seemed dead serious about it, and I believed he meant it, so I figured he had to have some kin d of weapon available to carry out that threat, and i wasn’t going to wait around to find out the hard way, so I shot him before he could do anything to me.” (Kinda like, ‘We’re going to go to war with Iraq and kill 10s of thousands of civilians because we’re not sure their military doesn’t have WMD.)

I’m going to go throw up now.

ETA:

I’m back now. I forgot I haven’t eaten anything in the last 12 hours. So I’m just neuron-vomiting. Which, unlike a good chunk blow, doesn’t have that purging effect of  ‘I feel so much better now that that’s over.” It’s just an Energizer Bunny of psychic pain that keeps going, and going, and going…

The bat-shit crazy proponents of the SYG expansion are — disingenuously IMHO  —  claiming the purpose of the change is prevent recurrences of the Marissa Alexander case. So if a woman claimed “I thought he was going to beat me so I fired a shot over his head to scare him off” she wouldn’t be thrown in the slammer for 20 years.  Er, um, Florida, your law allows people to Stand Their Ground with LETHAL force. So you’re going to give Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free cards for “I thought he was going to beat me so I put two hollow points through his left ventricle.” Uh, did you guys THINK about this at all?

Oh, I get it! Since you know gals like Samantha Scheibe keep a gun under the bed, you’re just trying to establish an effective deterrent so GZ doesn’t smash any more tables…

In other news, HBO sports reporter (yes, sports) Jon Frankel sent an unchaperoned 13 year old boy out to stores to attempt to buy cigarettes, liquor, a lottery ticket… — in each case he was refused because sales of those items to minors is prohibited by law. I’ll bet you know what comes next: Frankel sent the kid into a gun show where he had no trouble at all buying a weapon. Frankel noted that in Pennsylvania “you have to be 18 to operate a deli counter meat slicer… but you can be 12 and operate a gun.” Hey, no worries! Pennsylvania passed an SYG statute in 2011, so Junior won’t have to go to juvie for mowing down the school bullies!

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  1. wordsalad2009
    February 24, 2014 at 9:27 PM

    Yup, people who have a ‘hard-on’ for a particular person, or an entire group of people, or who are just assholics with no self-control can now kill with impunity.

    I feel sorry for decent Floridians (because I know they exist).

  2. racerrodig
    February 24, 2014 at 10:46 PM

    Unbelievable !!

    So everyone with a gun go to FL, stand on a street corner, hail everyone who walks by, tell them you are doing a survey, ask if they belong to the NRA, ask if they have a gun or a knife on them, shoot them dead, start screaming you were scared to death, claim SYG.

    Make sure you have at least 1 friend as a witness to back you up.

    Mayne, just maybe those stupid mindless politicians will get the point.

    If everyone without a CCW permit were to move out of FL, thereby removing all potential targets, they’d wise up But Noooooooooo!

    Even with the world watching them with a microscope, they made it worse.

    Hers to the moron who started this

    • racerrodig
      February 24, 2014 at 10:46 PM

      “Here’s to….”

      • wordsalad2009
        February 25, 2014 at 8:18 AM

        Ah, George Carlin. Thanks, it’s a good reminder not to despise everybody named George. And certainly not all Floridians, all Hispanics, or even all people who aren’t necessarily the sharpest knife in the drawer. Just lying, manipulative killers.

  3. wordsalad2009
    February 25, 2014 at 8:36 AM

    Is it any coinky-dink that Christi O’Connor’s latest update will come out on Wednesday, February 26, 2014, which would be the limit for a civil wrongful death suit?:

    Online Sunshine

    I’m thinking not.

    I’m also thinking that while there would be no limit under the federal Hate Crimes Prevention Act:

    FBI Federal Statutes

    The feds may be waiting until after the two year civil window so as not to muddy the waters.

  4. wordsalad2009
    February 25, 2014 at 9:21 AM

    Radar Online 20140225

    According to police documents reviewed by Radar, on November 19, 2013, officers met with Scheibe at the Seminole Sheriff’s Office in Sanford, Florida, “about the past domestic violence incident… Scheibe also stated that George Zimmerman had sent [her] 11 year old daughter an inappropriate still shot photo from an intimate home video.”

    Scheibe told cops the next day that “some time ago, she made a video that was sexual in nature,” the report claimed. “The video… remained on her cell phone until George Zimmerman found it” and sent it to his own cell phone.

    Then, Scheibe told cops, Zimmerman “took a still photograph [from the video], which depicted Samantha Scheibe lying on a bed and later forwarded this still photograph to her daughter’s cell phone” with the accompanying message: “Ask mommie what this is.”

    Police officers reviewed the original message which “only depicted Samantha Scheibe’s upper body and a headboard in the background,” per the report.

    After meeting with Scheibe’s daughter to view the clip on her phone, the officers determined “that the photograph did not show anything pornographic at all.”

    Ugh! So many things wrong with this.

    Get that eleven year old away from these people.

  5. wordsalad2009
    February 26, 2014 at 1:50 PM

    TheReidReport 20140226

    The Reid ReportVerified account ‏@TheReidReport

    #TrayvonMartin family attorney @attorneycrump will join @TheReidReport today discussing 2 years since #Trayvon’s death 2P ET on @msnbc

    …9:23 AM – 26 Feb 2014

  6. wordsalad2009
    February 26, 2014 at 1:56 PM

    The latest update at Christi O’Connor’s ad hoc website zimmermanverdict dot net:

    zimmermanverdict dot net 20140225

  7. wordsalad2009
    February 26, 2014 at 3:07 PM

    Slate 20140226

    …the old canard that an armed society is a polite society is pretty much bunk. Ours is not a polite society; we are rude and hotheaded and terrified. Now we have guns to help us sort it all out.

  8. wordsalad2009
    February 26, 2014 at 7:17 PM

    19:16:55 The Shot Heard Round the World

  9. wordsalad2009
  10. wordsalad2009
    February 27, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    Hat tip to Xena at her blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog for this link to a Daily Beast article about juror B29, Maddy:

    Daily Beast 20140226

    Three weeks of sequestration with five white women who didn’t understand the first thing about her, who demeaned and mocked and trivialized her, was more than enough.

    I figured that Maddy had been bullied way back when she said this (boldface font my edit for emphasis):

    WFTV 20130726

    I don’t know if I was bullied. I trust God that I wasn’t bullied.

    What that said to me was that she had been bullied.

  11. wordsalad2009
    February 27, 2014 at 6:15 PM

    Politico 20140227

    Attorney General Eric Holder was released from a Washington hospital and sent home Thursday after falling ill at Justice Department headquarters earlier in the day, according to a department official.

    “During his regular morning meeting with senior staff, the attorney general began experiencing symptoms including faintness and shortness of breath,” department spokesman Brian Fallon said in a statement.

    “As a precaution, the attorney general was taken to MedStar Washington Hospital Center to undergo further evaluation. He is currently resting comfortably and in good condition. He is alert and conversing with his doctors,” Fallon added.

    Early Thursday afternoon, a senior Justice Department official said Holder was resting at home after being discharged from the hospital at 1:15 P.M.

    The attorney general was taken to the hospital by ambulance in the morning, but made the trip at the urging of his security team, the official said.

    “It was his detail’s decision to take him to hospital as precaution,” said the official, who asked not to be named. “He joked with paramedics in the ambulance ride.”

  12. wordsalad2009
    February 27, 2014 at 8:26 PM

    HLN 20140226

    O’Mara: Is being young, black in Florida a danger?

    Editor’s note: Mark O’Mara is a Florida criminal defense attorney who represented George Zimmerman during his murder trial in 2013. O’Mara is a legal analyst for HLN’s sister network, CNN. He is on Twitter.

    HLN tells me many of their viewers have asked this question, and some have indicated that they’re afraid to move to or travel to Florida until the laws change. Are they wise to be afraid?

    I know it may seem disingenuous for me to try to answer this question, as I successfully defended George Zimmerman in the shooting of Trayvon Martin, so let me say this: No one knows the details of the Zimmerman case better than I do, and I’m absolutely convinced the shooting was justifiable self-defense and there were no racial motives at play.

    Well, what did anybody expect the primary defense attorney in the GZ murder/manslaughter case to say?

    Of course, he could just shut his pie hole, but that’s not what HLN’s sister network CNN is paying him to do these days.

  13. March 1, 2014 at 9:55 AM

    Because the racist legislature knows that juries are more likely to convict blacks and acquit whites under these laws, they have no fears of how they expect them to operate.

    When these laws begin to empower white on white killers, as they most assuredly will, then and only then will they reconsider them. People with fortunes will need to refuse the invitations of heirs to come visit them in Florida, or risk becoming a “feared person”, before they can change their wills.

  14. wordsalad2009
    March 1, 2014 at 11:26 AM

    @ Lonnie Starr,

    Hey, long time, no see. 🙂

    Because the racist legislature knows that juries are more likely to convict blacks and acquit whites under these laws, they have no fears of how they expect them to operate.

    When these laws begin to empower white on white killers, as they most assuredly will, then and only then will they reconsider them. People with fortunes will need to refuse the invitations of heirs to come visit them in Florida, or risk becoming a “feared person”, before they can change their wills.

    I’m struggling with myself not to turn this into a ‘Florida’ problem, because I don’t think it is.

    I’m going to go ahead and break Godwin’s Law again by using the atrocities of the German Third Reich as an analogy.

    Too many people still make the mistake of thinking that it was a German problem, and it wasn’t. It was a ‘human’ problem. That kind of terrible thing had happened before in history, and we must all pay attention, or it will happen again and again.

    I think you’re right, though, in that The Powers That Be in this country (which is still by-and-large white men) may finally begin to pay attention if self-defense laws begin to empower white murderers.

    • wordsalad2009
      March 1, 2014 at 11:31 AM

      Oh, foofy, I’m having another bad comm day:

      I think you’re right, though, in that The Powers That Be in this country (which is still by-and-large white men) may finally begin to pay attention if self-defense laws begin to empower white murderers.

      That should read: “white-on-white murders.”

  15. wordsalad2009
    March 1, 2014 at 5:58 PM

    Frost Illustrated 20140227

    Boldface font my edit for emphasis:

    Had he not massacred Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman would be an average white man holding down a mediocre job, living under the radar, and aspiring for a law enforcement job. He and his wife would probably be divorcing (as they are now) on account of his brutality (she cites his beatings in her divorce proceedings). Nobody, but nobody, would know his name or give a hoot about him.

    Is Malveaux privy to some very interesting detail about the SZ/GZ divorce?

  16. wordsalad2009
    March 3, 2014 at 7:39 PM

    International Business Times 20140303

    More U.S. residents put in requests to buy guns in the 12 months after George Zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin than in any other 12-month period since 1993.

    That was the year a federal law passed requiring every person who wants to buy a gun from a federal firearms licensee to pass a background check.

    Oh, nice.

    I recently read a series of amusing articles about advice natives of other countries give their compatriots for what to do/no do when visiting the United States. One of those less-amusing but nonetheless valuable pieces of advice was that there were three topics to avoid discussing with Americans at all costs: politics, guns, and religion.

    I wonder if world travelers are starting to advise not to visit here at all because we’re just too crazy in a bad way.

  17. March 4, 2014 at 12:24 AM

    When these laws begin to empower white on white killers, as they most assuredly will, then and only then will they reconsider them..

    I haven’t looked into specific cases, but crime stats being what they are, I’m sure these laws already have benefited white on white killers. We don’t know about such cases, because, without the hot-button element of racial difference to add to the drama, the media do not consider them “newsworthy.”

    IMHO, despite the racial disparity that no-doubt exists in the outcomes of SYG cases, the anti-SYG forces have made a serious strategic error by focusing on the racial injustice. Rev. Al, Ben Crump et. al. should be digging up examples of white on white gunmen getting off via questionable self-defense claims, and publicizing the hell out of them, for exactly the reason Lonnie describes.

    It’s not just a question of white bigotry, but a matter of a more broad apathy toward policy. People of all stripes tend to focus on the issues of their everyday lives, and just don’t care that much about politics unless they feel some threat that might enter their personal fear. That’s why right-wing-crazies have undue political power. They all vote, because they’re all scared. And really, EVERYBODY ought to be scared of SYG, because it truly does empower all the gun nuts to be trigger happy.

    So what if a Michael Dunn type is 2 or 3 or 4 times more likely to shoot at a black kid playing loud music in a parking lot than a white kid playing loud music in a parking lot? That doesn’t mean ALL the white kids are immune. It’s also probably true that the Michael Dunn types are probably 2 or 3 or 4 times more likely to encounter white teens acting like teenagers act. So yeah, Mr. and Mrs. White Florida, you’d better wake up, smell the gunpower, and realize your kids are at risk, too, because that is the fact of the matter.

    • wordsalad2009
      March 4, 2014 at 9:12 AM

      It’s not just a question of white bigotry, but a matter of a more broad apathy toward policy. People of all stripes tend to focus on the issues of their everyday lives, and just don’t care that much about politics unless they feel some threat that might enter their personal fear. That’s why right-wing-crazies have undue political power. They all vote, because they’re all scared.

      So, true, Perfesser. There’s an old saying in politics: people fund what they fear. Unfortunately, when I say “people” with regard to funding, that doesn’t necessarily mean We the People.

  18. wordsalad2009
    March 4, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    Hat tip to Nettles and her wordpress blog annettekblog for alerting me to the fact that Juror B29 Maddy and author Lisa Bloom were on Dr. Phil’s show yesterday:

    Dr Phil 20140303

    As you might suspect, the pro-GZ regulars at that blog are quite critical of Maddy, Bloom, and Dr. Phil’s handling thereof. I haven’t viewed the segment yet myself.

    I suppose I never will understand why so many people can simultaneously cut the now thirty-something GZ miles of slack, but none to the seventeen-year-old TM.

    Who is dead in this situation? Just checking.

  19. wordsalad2009
    March 4, 2014 at 5:14 PM

    Orlando Sentinel 20140304

    <

    blockquote>

    SANFORD – Former Neighborhood Watch volunteer George Zimmerman says he’s done fighting in court with Special Prosecutor Angela Corey.

    In paperwork filed at the Seminole County criminal courthouse, Zimmerman says he is giving up his promised fight to make the state pay his legal bills.

    He’s also wants to put an end to his lawyers’ fight with prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda, whom they had asked a judge to punish, alleging unethical behavior, including hiding evidence.

    <

    blockquote>

    Wait for it:

    If Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson agrees, that would clear the way for Zimmerman to move forward with his defamation suit against NBCUniversal. A hearing in that case is scheduled Friday.

    The suit was filed a year ago but was placed on hold until his criminal case was concluded.

    Ya know, I remember during GZ’s appearance on Dr. Phil’s show back in 2012 that they showed a promotional clip during a commercial break that just made my jaw drop.

    I can’t remember the exact question and answer anymore, but whoever did the editing of that promotional clip paired a question and GZ’s response to a different question, and in effect gave a completely false impression. Talk about your lawsuit-worthy editing, but I guess maybe Dr. Phil doesn’t look like the deep pockets NBC does.

    If GZ goes ahead with the NBC lawsuit, I hope NBC goes after the “F*cking coons,” issue.

  20. wordsalad2009
    March 4, 2014 at 5:26 PM

    From the same Orlando Sentinel piece:

    In an odd move, Corey’s office doesn’t want the judge to grant Zimmerman’s new request – that she forget about the sanctions. It wants to keep fighting and be declared the winner. A few days after Zimmerman filed his request, Assistant State Attorney Rich Mantei filed paperwork, asking the judge to rule in Corey’s favor.

    He even offered to resume the hearing “to make a complete record and establish the state committed no discovery violations….”

    Heh. Mantei strikes me as a guy who dots his i’s and crosses his t’s.

    In another legal development involving Zimmerman, a judge has set aside a default entered in favor of his wife, Shellie, in their ongoing divorce.

    That means the two sides are back to equal footing as they fight to divide up property but mostly the overwhelming debt they face because of George Zimmerman’s legal bills.

    And the dogs are back to being pawns. Or should I say “dog,” because in one of GZ’s recent interviews, I believe I heard him use the singular “dog.” Either one of the dogs has died in the interim, or GZ only cares about one of them.

    My money is on the latter scenario. I bet that GZ only cares about Oso/Bear the Rottweiler, because that’s a ‘status’ dog. Poor little Leroy; I hope your Momma loves you…

  21. wordsalad2009
    March 4, 2014 at 5:39 PM

    Let’s see: how many days has it been since GZ’s last ‘crisis’ that put him in the news?

    Frank Taaffe reportedly now wants to go in the ring with GZ:

    Radar Online 20140303

    Now there’s a match made in ‘heaven.’

    Q: Who do you want to see win?

    A: Neither. I want to see a draw after 75 rounds, with both of them battered and bloody.

    Naw, don’t tempt me. I don’t want to see either of those alphaholes do anything.

  22. wordsalad2009
    March 6, 2014 at 1:08 PM

    A sane Floridian:

    Sun Sentinel 20140225

    Democratic candidate for governor Nan Rich of Weston called Tuesday for changes in Florida’s controversial “Stand Your Ground” self-defense law.

    “The sad reality is that laws intended to make Floridians safer are in fact making us less safe,” Rich said in a statement. “Our state shouldn’t be a place where people are afraid that every parking lot argument could end in gunfire.”

    Thank you, Nan.

    In other ‘news’ GZ is going to a gun show this weekend. He claims that he won’t be paid for it, but I suspect that the minimum payoff will be potential ego strokes.

    Dare I hope that some gun show attendee with more money than sense will give GZ a job, thereby reducing the amount of time GZ spends on twitter alternately tweeting sanctimonious religious quotes, and playing na-na na-na boo-boo with his detractors?

    Nah, that’s too much to hope for.

    The gun show organizers know that attaching GZ’s name to the event will draw the idly curious, however, I suspect that the vast majority of GZ ‘admirers’ prefer to admire him at a safe distance from their real lives. They might love guns, the American flag, Jesus, etcetera, but that doesn’t mean they want GZ around them and their loved ones for more than a five-minute photo/autograph op.

  23. wordsalad2009
    March 6, 2014 at 5:23 PM

    Oooo (boldface font my edit for emphasis):

    VP_Renewsit at twitter 20140306

    V. P. ‏@VP_Renewsit

    I just spoke to #Majestic and they will be revising their hasty and defamatory statement shortly on their facebook. pic.twitter.com/KlkmVLqOGW

    …11:51 AM – 6 Mar 2014

    (Plain text version of the alleged facebook statement)

    Hello, George Zimmerman will not be at Majestic for the gunshow this coming weekend. Unfortunately we were not in the know that he was invited by the client until we received emails today about the “Guest of Honor”. The client has been notified that he is not allowed on property. Majestic is proud of our community and would do nothing to upset it. Again this was not authorized by Majestic and we will not be allowing Mr. Zimmerman on property.

    Neil Cavanagh
    Asst. General Manager
    Majestic Event
    Center
    407-300-9124

    Then there’s this on Majestic Orlando’s facebook:

    Majestic on facebook

    Majestic Orlando
    Recent social media postings have been made, stating that Gorge Zimmerman will be a host at this weekends upcoming Gun Show at Majestic Event Center . These postings were not approved by Majestic Event Center and were made in error by an outside party. George Zimmerman will not be on property during this event.
    3 hours ago near Orlando, FL…

    This could get interesting.

    • wordsalad2009
      March 7, 2014 at 11:09 AM

      Well, it looks like not only is Majestic Orlando (the hotel) standing firm in their decision that GZ isn’t welcome, the gun show itself has been cancelled.

      You’d think GZ would ‘learn’ something from all this, but no, he tweeted Sean Hannity to ‘stand with him’ about his ‘violated rights.’

      Insofar as I can tell, Hannity’s response thus far is stony silence.

      GZ apparently will have to learn the hard way that being found “Not Guilty” doesn’t mean that he’s welcome everywhere, and that that isn’t a violation of his rights.

      Does the phrase “We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone” ring any bells? It should.

      It’s not like the hotel is denying access to a whole group of people, e.g., African-Peruvians, just one unmitigated ass.

      • wordsalad2009
        March 7, 2014 at 1:53 PM

        Here’s an interesting tidbit from the Daily Mail:

        Daily Mail 20140307

        When contacted by MailOnline, Piwowarski clarified that Zimmerman was to be a paying vendor who wanted to attend for a meet and greet – he would not have charged for any autographs.

        So GZ is broke, but he can afford to pay for a table at a gun show?

        Piwowarski (or his web admin) seems to be an ass as well.

        There’s a picture of GZ with some bearded dude, and two others whose faces are electronically blacked out and labeled “Anonymous Operator.” The TAR admin posted this text (boldface font my edit for emphasis):

        The Arms Room at Facebook

        The Arms Room Correction Timothy. Only one man identified in the room with a confirmed kill. They are not anonymous operators for nothing.
        5 · March 3 at 5:38pm

        At the very least, whoever posted that is about as sensitive as a toilet seat.

        Well, obviously, this particular craptastic chapter in GZ’s life isn’t over yet, as the vendors may sue the Majestic. I hope the vendors lose their ass, but that could just be me.

  24. wassointeresting
    March 6, 2014 at 10:36 PM

    OK, rather off-topic, but I’ve been sort of following the Oscar Pistorius trial. Not anywhere nearly as closely as I did with GZ’s case though. But it rather gives me a better appreciation of our own justice system, as wacky as we all think it can be. In South Africa, apparently there’s no jury trial, so there’s only one person to convince, the judge. And in watching the cross-examinations of the witnesses, it’s rather amazing what goes on. The witnesses are allowed to go on at length not only what they thought they heard or saw, but to relay the impressions of other witnesses near them. Even more puzzling, the lawyer is allowed to say to the witness on the stand, “well these other witnesses said such and such, so there must be another explanation for what you heard”.

    So just some background, Pistorius says that he thought his girlfriend was in bed when he heard what he thought was an intruder in the bathroom. So he goes and fires 4 shots through the door. Then he realizes she’s not in bed and that it was her in the bathroom, which was locked, so he breaks it down with a cricket bat. He carries her downstairs to try and get help. He’s visible distraught when a neighbor, a doctor, comes to help.

    The prosecution says that he shot her after an argument, and it was premeditated murder.

    At issue is several witnesses including that doctor said they heard a female voice scream before the gunshots. But the defense claims that she wouldn’t have been able to scream given her wounds (one to the head), and it was Pistorius screaming for help. (Sound familiar guys?).

    Anyway, take a look if you’re interested in how another country deals with murder cases.

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/watch-live-here-oscar-pistorius-murder-trial-day-4/

    • wordsalad2009
      March 7, 2014 at 10:45 AM

      @ wassointeresting,

      I knew the Pistorius situation was messed up, but I didn’t know how much.

  25. wordsalad2009
    March 8, 2014 at 12:40 PM

    The Arms Room is holding their gun show on their own property instead of the Majestic Orlando, and GZ will be there. They sound like they deserve each other (that “confirmed kill” business was beyond tasteless).

    The Arms Room has a lawyer on retainer, and he’s already filed a suit against the parent company for Majestic (Mathura Holdings LLC). For those that want to follow it, the case number is 2014-CA-002408-O (Orange County’s website S/W isn’t ‘friendly’ enough to allow one to bookmark the case after having successfully found it):

    Orange County Clerk of Courts

    In yet another ID10T error by GZ, he tweeted the phone number of some pharmacy in Kissimmee as being the contact information for the owner of Majestic, and suggested that his supporters call them:

    therealGZ at twitter 20140306

    Lurch Addams shaking his head in weary disapproval

  26. wordsalad2009
    March 8, 2014 at 12:55 PM

    New York Daily News 20140308

    …a judge sided with the venue during an emergency hearing on Friday, the station reported.

  27. wordsalad2009
    March 9, 2014 at 10:54 AM

    An interview with GZ at the gun show yesterday:

    Fox News 35 20140308

    In regards to whether he understands why people are still angry with him, Zimmerman says he doesn’t.

    Well, besides having needlessly killed an unarmed teenager, maybe it’s his apparent lack of remorse. Oh, and his continuous grifting:

    Zimmerman says he suffers from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and has received pro bono treatment from more than one mental health professional.

    So he can afford sixty bucks for a table at a gun show, but he can’t afford medical treatment…

    Well, not to mention apparently not getting help for what’s really wrong with him (narcissism).

    He also says he currently does not have a home, but rather moves from hotel-to-hotel.

    Who’s paying for that, I wonder?

    As for why he won’t leave Florida, he says this is his home and he won’t be chased out.

    Because his government-pensioned parents are there, and can still be hit up for money.

    In the near future Zimmerman says he intends to continue his education

    Unless they’ve changed the rules, you can’t pack heat at school.

  28. wordsalad2009
    March 9, 2014 at 8:49 PM

    Kudos to “towerflower” at the blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog (boldface font my edit for emphasis):

    blackbutterfy7 at wordpress 20140307

    towerflower | 03/07/2014 at 9:08 pm

    I contacted the Pharmacy via email and told them who was responsible for their phone problems and gave a screen shot of Z’s tweet. They emailed me back thanking me for the information and to ask that we pass the word letting everyone know that they have nothing to do with GZ.

    Yup, by my count, there was at least one “ass clown” at that weekend gun show: gz. More, if the web admin for The Arms Room and the poster who made those comments about “confirmed kill” were there.

  29. wordsalad2009
    March 10, 2014 at 3:10 PM

    Wonkette 20140310

    Poor George Zimmerman is a victim once more, this time of a callous public that failed to turn out at a gun show to meet him and get his autograph. Don’t people understand that if George Zimmerman isn’t constantly applauded for his brave ground-standing, the spark of freedom will be extinguished and he might have to get a job?

    Apparently about 20 out of 200 attendees sought an autograph from GZ. As Fran Drescher might say, “Who are these people?”

    And now that he’s had his fling with art, and with not quite getting beaten up for money, and with meeting twenty members of his public, what does the future hold for George Zimmerman?

    Dare we hope for mockery, ridicule and shame, followed by complete obscurity?

    The mockery and ridicule are well underway (and GZ richly deserves them).

    I don’t think “shame” is quite right, though. Shame is something that GZ should feel if he were a mentally/emotionally normal person, but it seems pretty clear that he feels nothing of the sort.

    “Attempted shaming” would be more at, because people who are appalled at the things he’s done (chiefly, stalking and killing an unarmed teenager, and then trying to milk his resulting notoriety for gain) are doing just that: trying to bring him to some sense of the egregious wrong he’s done.

    The complete obscurity? It can’t come soon enough.

    Here’s more snark from Gawker:

    Gawker 20140310

  30. wordsalad2009
    March 10, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    Hat tip to “towerflower” at the blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog for making me go to The Arms Room’s facebook, and dig up their explanation of the circumstances under which GZ came to have a “vendor table” at the gun show (boldface font my edit for emphasis(:

    The Arms Room at facebook 20140307

    The Arms Room…By the legal letter of the law, since he was to have a table, he would be considered a “vendor”…he was not however, selling anything tangible. He was simply going to have a table, accept donations and offer the opportunity to do a meet and greet with the public and other 2A supporters.

    We want to be very clear on a detail that has been left out of most interviews. We did not initiate the process or ask Mr. Zimmerman to be a part of the show originally. Mr. Zimmerman reached out and inquired about being able to have a table and a presence, and we most graciously came to terms which would have allowed him to do just that…March 7 at 1:46pm

    Um, yah. Per GZ, he went to the gun show to show reciprocal support to the owner of The Arms Room, who had supported him during his murder/manslaughter trial. He just happened to have his beg bowl out while he was doing that.

  31. wordsalad2009
    March 11, 2014 at 2:52 PM

    @ Perfesser whonoze: this article is interesting:

    Tampa Bay 20140307

    One tidbit that was an eyeful:

    …the California Supreme Court empowered its citizens to stand their ground and use deadly force in public places about 120 years ago, a precedent reflected to this day in the state’s jury instructions. One instruction states not only that “a defendant is not required to retreat” and “is entitled to stand his or her ground,” but that she is allowed, “if reasonably necessary, to pursue an assailant.”

    In other words, a Floridian may stand his ground. But a Californian, under the right circumstances, can chase his attacker.

    As Major Clipton said at the end of “The Bridge Over the River Kwai,” “Madness…madness!”

  32. wordsalad2009
    March 12, 2014 at 1:56 PM

    Kudos to “Joseph Norton” at the blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog for uncovering a possible motivation for the owner of The Arms Room to champion someone GZ (and no, it’s not firearms ownership).

    I was initially feeling cautious about whether they’d correctly identified the right person, because despite the unusual-looking surname, there are multiple people with both the same surname and first name. The middle initial and age narrow things down a bit.

    If this is indeed the same person, then he would appear to identify with GZ for just about the worst possible reasons:

    Orlando Sentinel 19990622

  33. wordsalad2009
    March 12, 2014 at 10:56 PM

    Excellent catch by “towerflower” at the blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog.

    It seems GZ’s parents are suing Rosanne Barr for $15,000, claiming that they were forced to leave their Lake Mary home after she tweeted their address:

    FOX TV Media dot com PDF Copy of Lawsuit

    The problem? The lawsuit says RB tweeted the Z’s address on March 29, 2012.

    However, there’s this (boldface font my edit for emphasis):

    Orlando Sentinel 20120315

    10:42 p.m. EST, March 15, 2012

    By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel

    …Both Zimmerman families have moved out of their homes, at least temporarily, Robert Zimmerman said, because they’ve received death threats…

    Hmmm…

    Not saying it was right for Barr to tweet their address, but the fact that they moved at least two weeks before she did so kinda blows lawsuit allegation # 15 right out of the water:

    Robert Zimmerman and Gladys Zimmerman were forced to flee their home as a direct result of the Roseanne Barr tweets.

    There was another ‘interesting’ tidbit in that old OS piece:

    Police on Tuesday turned the case over to the State Attorney’s Office, saying they did not have evidence to justify George Zimmerman’s arrest on a charge of manslaughter.

    Here it was, the middle of March, and investigators had already long since listened to that recording of GZ’s Non-Emergency Number police call–but they couldn’t justify arrest for manslaughter? Honey, please.

  34. wordsalad2009
    March 13, 2014 at 11:02 PM

    Tell it:

    Orlando Sentinel 20140312

    (Boldface font my edit for emphasis):

    March 12, 2014|By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel

    According to the suit, Barr published their address on Twitter March 29, 2012, a month after their son George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black teenager in Sanford, but before his arrest.

    It alleges that Barr’s tweets forced them to go into hiding.

    But that date – March 29, 2012 – does not jibe with what Robert Zimmerman Sr. told the Orlando Sentinel in a March 15, 2012, interview. On that day, he said that he and his wife had already moved out of their home and gone into hiding because of death threats.

    Stuzman should know; the March 15, 2012 OS piece had her by-line on it.

  35. wordsalad2009
    March 14, 2014 at 9:48 AM

    Hat tip to Xena at her blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog:

    blackbutterfly7 at wordpress 20140314

    She makes the point that because the defendant in Clan Z’s lawsuit (Rosanne Barr) resides in Hawaii (as opposed to the state of the plaintiffs’ residence, Florida), the case may well get moved to a federal district court.

  36. wordsalad2009
    March 14, 2014 at 9:59 AM

    In other ‘news,’ GZ has been the target of various Internet hoaxes lately. He has neither won a lottery, fought with an NBA star, nor died.

    What he has done is record and release a video (with the assistance of his divorce lawyer) in an attempt to “control his message,” and “show America” who he really is.

    Thanks to his own previous words and deeds, we already know who GZ is: a manipulative liar and unrepentant liar.

    • wordsalad2009
      March 14, 2014 at 10:02 AM

      Oops, bad editing. That should read:

      Thanks to his own previous words and deeds, we already know who GZ is: a manipulative liar and unrepentant killer.

  37. wordsalad2009
    March 15, 2014 at 11:35 AM

    There appears to be no cure for Narcissistic Personality Disorder, so I wonder whether there’s some kind of ‘twelve step’ program for those who genuinely see that they have the problem and want to change for the better.

    Nah, in GZ’s case, that would entail admitting that he’d needlessly killed TM, and apologize for it. That’ll never happen…

    Another thing I wonder about, less idly, is whether the text messages GZ and SZ exchanged on February 26, 2012 will ever see the light of day:

    Phone Records

    The 3 minute voice communication they had at 18:48 would be a matter of ‘faith’ or conjecture, but those text messages were recorded for posterity.

    If I recall correctly, the defense succeeded in having them suppressed in the murder/manslaughter trail because they would have been ‘prejudicial’ to their client. Damned straight they would have been, I bet.

  38. wordsalad2009
    March 16, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    Comedian and documentarian David Brenner died Saturday, March 15, 2014:

    Philly 20140316

    For a time after graduation, he wrote, produced, and directed documentaries on news and social issues for KYW-TV.

    Upon his induction into the Broadcast Pioneers of Philadelphia hall of fame in 2003, Mr. Brenner remembered his time as a local documentarian.

    “I made the decision that nothing I had done on TV changed one damn thing – that Man has all the answers and solutions to the inequities, but just doesn’t want to implement them, probably a combination of Man’s innate evil and all the money that can be made from Man’s suffering,” he wrote on the group’s website.

    I suspect that somebody as smart as Brenner realized humans have an innate capacity for good as well as evil. After all, Brenner himself put all that work into identifying the problems, and possible solutions.

    Rest now, Dovidl; we’re smiling.

  39. wordsalad2009
    March 16, 2014 at 5:28 PM

    Hat tip to Xena at her blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog for alerting me to the existence of ‘white rights’ activist Kyle Hunt:

    vice dot com interview with Kyle Hunt 20140315

    I’d call him a sick bastard, but I’m trying to get out of the habit of using the word “bastard” as a pejorative (there are no illegitimate children, only illegitimate parents).

    In other ‘news,’ Nettles18 at her annettekblog wordpress blog has finally succeeded in setting up a password-protected thread. It’s called “War Room.”

    Hopefully, the participants will remember (per “Dr. Strangelove”) that there’s no fighting in the War Room.

  40. wordsalad2009
    March 17, 2014 at 5:25 PM

    New York Daily News 20140317

    George Zimmerman confessed.

    “I confess, I’m tired of the judge mental (sic) looks, I know better…my fat a– has no business owning a track jacket, yet I own 3. Sorry America,” he tweeted from his account @TherealGeorgeZ Monday afternoon after promising to reveal a “very important” confession earlier that day.

    A starving narcissist. What will he do when he’s down to ‘skin and bones,’ so to speak?

    I probably shouldn’t wonder. Whatever it will be, it won’t be pretty.

  41. wordsalad2009
    March 20, 2014 at 12:21 PM

    The DOJ commented yesterday on the investigation into whether Trayvon Martin’s civil rights were violated:

    News 13 20140319

    But Wednesday, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said Zimmerman could still face federal charges in the case, and hinted that decision could come soon.

    “We are still in the process of doing the kinds of investigative things and analysis that are necessary before we can make the determination,” Holder said. “So that matter’s ongoing.”

    It’s probably well to remember that the scope of the investigation should include not just GZ’s actions, but law enforcement’s, etc.

    Meanwhile, Florida appears to be trying to do a course correction on Stand Your Ground (boldface font my edit for emphasis):

    Mediaite 20140318

    The proposed fixes would include a requirement that a full investigation be pursued over whether there was lawfully used force in a situation were [sic] the aggressor cited self-defense, and it also takes injuries from third parties as a result of self-defense measures.

    One of the bill’s supporters, Stacy Scott, said, the law is “not to be used for vigilantism, for revenge or as an excuse to confront people.”

    One of the things I’m hoping the DOJ looks at are the text messages exchanged between GZ and his wife SZ on that fateful day.

    I’m hoping that those support the portrait of a narcissist who, having a bad year, and feeling threatened with the cutoff of his major narcissistic supply (his estranged wife SZ), went out looking for some instant gratification in the form of a ‘collar’ of a ‘suspicious’ person.

    I think TM just happened to be young, male, black, and outside at the Retreat at the exact moment GZ needed a ‘fix.’

    Kudos to “yahtzee” at the blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog for her spot-on analogy of GZ as an extreme, real-life version of Eddie Haskell from “Leave It to Beaver”:

    blackbutterfly7 at wordpress 20140320

    Somewhat ironically, the actor who played Eddie ended up becoming a cop in real life.

    Anyway, I suspect that the feds are not at all taken in by GZ’s “choirboy” pose; the problem is sufficient concrete proof.

    • wordsalad2009
      March 20, 2014 at 12:52 PM

      Oh, and to preclude the by now ‘reflexive’ argument that Stand Your Ground had nothing to do with GZ’s case:

      No, a Stand Your Ground defense wasn’t used in GZ’s trial per se, but it permeated the entire case, and ultimately, SYG language was in the jury instructions.

      The very term Stand Your Ground evokes the image of a righteous gunslinger–which the cowardly, concealed-carry licensee GZ most emphatically is not.

      The GZ case is a syzygy of bad elements (a remorseless killer, bad laws, corruption, etc.) coming together.

  42. wordsalad2009
    March 20, 2014 at 2:59 PM

    Speaking of despicable ass clowns, Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church died late Wednesday night. Here’s a opinion piece about him, and the reaction to his (impending) death:

    Washington Post 20140320

    Not surprisingly, many in the LGBT community have let their own inner hate rip as the news of Phelps’s impending death circulated. On Facebook a gay man wrote, “The world will be a better and more loving place without this human garbage.” Another suggested making any funeral for Phelps into a “ridiculous, frivolous spectacle” — even going so far to suggest carrying signs that read: “GOD HATES FRED PHELPS . . . AND HE’S ABOUT TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH.”

    Enough.

    Yes, I understand what drives many to such extreme emotions (and I’d be lying if I didn’t admit to a vein of it myself); after all it’s only human to want to fight back against hate.

    Instead, what if those on the receiving end of Phelps’s ideology did the opposite, which is to say, let him go quietly — and without protest — into that good night? Imagine the karma lesson that would be to all those who have supported Westboro Baptist.

    Revenge against Phelps — or, frankly, any hateful or toxic person — doesn’t really allow for healing. Joseph Burgo, a psychoanalyst and an author, told me this week: “For those of us who have felt hated and shamed by people like Phelps, the temptation is to turn tables and triumph over their demise. You might think of it as ‘giving back’ the hatred and shame that was inflicted upon us, but this reaction binds us to the other person as long as we continue to feel that way.” He then added that we need “to break the hold of these destructive emotions and move on.”

    So, with Phelps’s passing, I suggest we bombard Westboro Baptist with sympathy cards and prayers. Or, as a friend of mine tells me: “Drive your enemies really crazy: Love them.” Okay, maybe not love, but at least not hate. Never hate.

    Sounds good to me. At minimum, don’t further empower the hateful asshole.

    For those who are religious (I’m not), what might help them is to recall what Abraham Lincoln once said:

    wikipedia

    When a pious minister told Lincoln he “hoped the Lord is on our side,” the president responded, “I am not at all concerned about that…. But it is my constant anxiety and prayer that I and this nation should be on the Lord’s side.”

    Oh, it appears that Phelps won’t be having a funeral ( };-) ):

    WIBW 20140320

  43. wordsalad2009
    March 21, 2014 at 1:46 PM

    Etcetera 20140319

    Stand Your Ground laws evolved from castle doctrine, which simply says that you have the right to protect your home without the duty to retreat.

    That’s right. It would be one thing to kill a bonafide intruder in one’s home, but the expansion of Castle Doctrine seems to have made it ‘OK’ to chase somebody around the neighborhood, kill them, and then claim self-defense.

    Or, you know, kill somebody at a convenience store over a hundred miles from one’s home. “Hey, I was defending myself–my delicate sensibilities.”

    The very term “Stand Your Ground” so infects the popular imagination that it has become synonymous with modern self-defense, and it poisons jury instructions–and jury pools.

  44. wordsalad2009
    March 22, 2014 at 12:40 PM

    Wow, major hat tip to “yahtzee” at the blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog for the link to this article:

    Tamba Bay 20140321

    Tucked into that bill is an amendment that’s practically a kiss blown to the powerful National Rifle Association. Should it pass, people whose charges are dropped by prosecutors or judges because of a “stand your ground” defense that says they were justifiably threatened can then get their entire “criminal history” records expunged.

    On erasing those public (at least for now) records, consider the 2011 case of Greyston Garcia of Miami. He armed himself with a kitchen knife when someone was stealing the radio from his truck. He chased the fleeing burglar down. When the burglar swung a bag of stolen radios at him, Garcia blocked it and stabbed him to death. He did not call police. He went home and went to sleep. He later sold the stolen stereos. After testimony that the bag of radios could have done him serious harm, Garcia walked.

    Are those details you would want to know in considering whether “stand your ground” should stand as is? And if it is a good law, wouldn’t a public airing of its cases prove it?

    How do you look at a law that can justify killing someone if you don’t get to know what actually happened? But maybe that’s the point. Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.

    I’m also troubled by reading in more than one article that the burden of proof in pre-trial hearings might switch from the defense to the prosecution:

    Business Insider/Reuters 20140318

    You know, I’m sure that there are cases of justifiable, self-defense homicide, but Greyston Garcia, GZ, and Michael Dunn don’t meet the criteria. Not in my book.

    As a nation, we seem to be headed in the wrong direction with regard to self-defense legislation.

  45. wordsalad2009
    March 23, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    Hat tip to yahtzee at the blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog for alerting me to this twitter picture of a pregnant Samantha Scheibe:

    Samantha Skeet 20140322

    For a moment, my heart sank to think that another innocent child was being dragged into a dysfunctional environment, but in looking again, it’s probably a photo shop job. Also, if it was real, I think GZ would be trumpeting it from the rooftops.

    I suppose it’s possible if not probable that GZ will actually procreate some day, and I’ll have to adjust myself to that idea. There are millions of children born into dysfunctional environments, and I can’t stop that.

    And yeah, that situation with Scheibe is dysfunctional. That pair of November 2013 911 calls are official records. Take your pick: (a) GZ actually threatened/choked Sheibe (b) Sheibe made it all up (c) they made it up together as a publicity stunt.

    No matter how you slice it, anywhere GZ is, is a dysfunctional environment.

  46. wordsalad2009
    March 24, 2014 at 12:00 PM

    An interesting read about Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church:

    Los Angeles Times 20140320

    I’m still looking for the cause of death, but no joy so far. I found this very interesting, however (boldface font my edit for emphasis):

    I deeply mourn the grief and pain felt by my family members denied their right to visit him in his final days. They deserved the right to finally have closure to decades of rejection, and that was stolen from them.”

    It sounds to me like maybe those members of his family who were estranged from him were denied access by Fred Waldron Phelps Senior himself.

    As painful as that might be, the now-deceased Phelps would have been within his own rights to do so. You know, assuming he was no crazier on his deathbed that he had been for the last couple of decades.

    The statement goes on to quote scripture before also criticizing the media for reporting on rumors that Phelps had recently been excommunicated from the church by its members. (The church has not explicitly denied the claim.)

    If the church won’t explicitly deny it, then he probably had been excommunicated. And, yeah, I am experiencing schadenfreude.

    All the attention to Phelps’ death was just a distraction from outsiders’ inevitable damnation, the church wrote.

    Um, yeah, just keep telling yourselves that: you’re the only ones going to heaven.

    Hopefully, the surviving Westboro Baptist Church members have at least learned not to picket funerals.

  47. wordsalad2009
    March 24, 2014 at 2:31 PM

    Heh! A wonkette commenter about Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church:

    wonkette 20140323

    memzilla · 1 day ago
    “The United States, despite dire warnings from Westboro… has become increasingly supportive of gay rights.”

    With this track record, I would like Westboro to next come out in favor of income inequality… as in The One Percent Aren’t Rich Enough.

    I will be glad to crowdfund them some “GOD H8S TEH POORZ” signs.

    Yeah, baby! Even the mother of the brutally tortured and murdered Matthew Shepard was ‘thankful’ that Phelps had drawn so much attention to issues surrounding homosexuality (but not necessarily in the way that he’d hoped).

    I can’t say that I actually hate old Fred, just the hateful, hurtful things he did. I do admit to a bit of glee over the possibility that his own church may have excommunicated him, but celebrate his death? Nah.

  48. wordsalad2009
    March 24, 2014 at 3:47 PM

    The first installment of Xena’s opinion of Lisa Bloom’s “Suspicion Nation”:

    blackbutterfly7 at wordpress 20140324

    I agree that Juror B-29, Maddy, was probably intimidated by her fellow jurors before deliberations ever began.

    Unfortunately, the “mean girls” mentality does not die after high school. Indeed, it usually only becomes more sophisticated in its expression, and thus more difficult to combat.

    P.S. I’m so stoopid that I actually had to look up “Roman noodles” to see whether it was some Chicago specialty I wasn’t familiar with. Man, ramen noodles–if only I had a nickel for every package of those I’ve consumed…

  49. wordsalad2009
    March 24, 2014 at 7:56 PM

    More Phelps tidbits (too many to quote):

    The Guardian 20140320

  50. wordsalad2009
    March 26, 2014 at 7:12 PM

    The second installment of Xena’s commentary on Lisa Bloom’s “Suspicion Nation”:

    Blackbutterfly7 at worpress 20140326

    Kudos for posting a screenshot of GZ during his 20120227 re-inactment. Very clearly, his hand is not on his hip, but rather on his buttock. He may well have indicated a different position in other renditions, but this was the morning after the homicide.

    It does strike me as a peculiar place to wear a gun, even one as thin as a Kel-Tec PF-9, but hey, a lot of stuff GZ does strikes me as ‘peculiar.’

    Also, thanks for re-iterating/reinforcing the possibility that GZ’s nose injuries could have been caused by recoil from his own gun (as opposed to a punch from TM).

    It does well to recall the EMTs’ on-scene assessment at 19:41 that evening:

    PDF at Turner dot com 20120517

    No External Hemorrhage Noted; Mucous Membrane Normal

    Indeed, when you look closely at the picture of GZ’s face taken on-scene, the blood doesn’t appear to have come out of his nostrils, but rather the tip of his nose, and then smeared around a bit:

    CBS 20121204

    Looking closely at one of the pictures taken later at the police station, you can see some little ‘pin-prick’ marks on the tip of his nose:

    Bay News 9 20120523

    It seems quite plausible that they could have been caused by the Kel-Tec PF-9 during recoil.

    And those two little lacerations on the back of his head? So very not consistent with having one’s head repeatedly pounded on cement.

  51. wordsalad2009
    March 27, 2014 at 12:43 PM

    Thanks (again) for intervening in whatever caused my last post to hang up in moderation, Perfesser.

    And thanks for this timely reminder:

    blackbutterfly7 at wordpress 20140326

    …Bloom has the resources to consult the appropriate top-notch medical experts not only to refute Di Maio’s testimony, but to establish whether or not the apparent injury to the bridge of GZ’s nose in the infamous “bloody nose” is even an anatomical possibility. I am amazed that more than two years after Trayvon’s death, NO ONE has produced an analysis of that photo from the standpoint of a maxillofacial surgeon…

    Yeah, those very belatedly produced photos taken on-scene of GZ’s injuries are indeed suspect with regard to photo-shopping.

    It’s only yet another issue that suggests corruption in the case. At minimum, it makes me wonder whether GZ was being protected because he’d been some kind of low-level stooge for local law-enforcement (that Sherman Ware scandal could have been merely a ‘tool’ used to oust Sanford Police Department Chief Brian Tooley).

    I have to say that I’ve also been a bit disappointed with Bloom’s commentary on the case, only one reason being something rather ‘simple.’ In one interview, she repeatedly referred to GZ’s police call from that evening as a 911 call. I know it’s a small point, but it exasperates me, because it only gives ammunition to GZ supporters (“See? Bloom doesn’t know what she’s talking about!”)

  52. wordsalad2009
    March 28, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    “Rachael” observed on the blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog that ‘someone’ (presumably GZ) has managed to stay out of the news for two weeks.

    Well, perhaps not quite two weeks, as there was that New York Daily News piece about GZ’s 20140317 ‘confession’ tweets, but close enough.

    He does seem to have been uncharacteristically quiet of late. I wonder if that’s because he went on a trip with his brother. Junior tweeted on the 21st that he was going on a “retreat” with his “buds” to celebrate his 33rd birthday (the 26th), and wouldn’t resume tweeting until the 28th (today).

    GZ has only tweeted once since the 21st (on the 24th). Why do I envision him in a wilderness, longing for WiFi?

    In other ‘news,’ it may turn out that Scheibe is indeed pregnant (she’s made a number of suggestive tweets recently). I hope not, because there’s already one innocent child (her eleven year old daughter) in that dysfunctional environment.

  53. wordsalad2009
    March 28, 2014 at 8:41 PM

    balckbutterfly7 at wordpress

    Xena | 03/28/2014 at 1:38 pm…

    He’s probably looking for Twitter Bible; verses in 140 characters of less…

    wheeze GZ does seem to need something like that so that he can avoid mangled quasi-quotes like this:

    Timothy 4:12 therealGZ Squitter Version

    Dont let any1 think less of U because U R young. B an example 2 all in what U say, the way Ur live, Ur love, Ur faith & purity.

    Um, is that anything like:

    Timothy 4:12 King James Version

    Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity.

  54. wordsalad2009
    March 28, 2014 at 9:27 PM

    Kobe Bryant comments on the case:

    NewsOne 20140328

    I won’t react to something just because I’m supposed to, because I’m an African-American,” he said. “That argument doesn’t make any sense to me. So we want to advance as a society and a culture, but, say, if something happens to an African-American we immediately come to his defense? Yet you want to talk about how far we’ve progressed as a society? Well, we’ve progressed as a society, then don’t jump to somebody’s defense just because they’re African-American. You sit and you listen to the facts just like you would in any other situation, right?

    Sounds fair to me.

    However, I would hope that if Bryant knew anything about the case, he’d know that GZ is a remorseless, lying killer, and that TM didn’t need to die.

    • wordsalad2009
      March 29, 2014 at 10:55 AM

      Oh, here we go (boldface font my edit for emphasis):

      Kobe Bryant at twitter 20140327

      Kobe BryantVerified account ‏@kobebryant

      Travon Martin was wronged THATS my opinion and thats what I believe the FACTS showed. The system did not work #myopinion #tweetURthoughts

      …11:23 AM – 27 Mar 2014

      So Bryant does have an opinion on the case (and it’s one with which I happen to agree); he just refuses to feel pressured into any kind of ‘lock-step’ behaviors based on his ‘membership’ in various groups by circumstances of birth.

      Can’t blame him there. Just because I’m female and caucasian doesn’t mean that I reflexively defend all women or all white people. I like to evaluate things on a case-by-case basis.

  55. wordsalad2009
    March 29, 2014 at 11:01 AM

    An interesting profile of Joy Reid (boldface font my edit for emphasis):

    The Daily Beast 20140327

    Like most of the talent on MSNBC, Reid leans to the left, but she makes a point of inviting adversaries on her show for a civil, good-natured debate. On Monday’s installment, she mercilessly grilled Katon Dawson, the former chairman of the South Carolina Republican Party, about the GOP’s unworthy efforts to gut the Voting Rights Act—but she still called Dawson “a good guy” on the air.

    She doubtless would even be nice to House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, the 2012 Republican vice presidential nominee, though she calls Ryan’s recent racially freighted comments about an alleged lack of a work ethic in “urban” neighborhoods “totally offensive.”

    “It’s not surprising given his Ayn Randian view that whatever befalls poor people comes down to their character, and that there is something heroic about being rich, even if you inherit your money,” Reid says. “The reality is people who are poor get up every morning and stand on their feet working two and three jobs a day. They work longer hours than most of us, in more grueling jobs—the crappy jobs that nobody else wants to do. They get paid no money, and they don’t have time to help their kids with their homework, and they’re exhausted at the end of the day.”

  56. wordsalad2009
    March 29, 2014 at 11:05 AM

    The current status of the GZ vs. NBC UNIVERSAL MEDIA L L C case:

    Seminole County Clerk of Courts, Detailed Information for Case 2012CA006178

    • wordsalad2009
      March 30, 2014 at 10:35 AM

      Still no recent tweets from GZ. Junior and Scheibe have both tweeted in the last couple of days, but GZ hasn’t since early on the 24th.

      Is he actually busy, or did one of his lawyers finally convince him that it would be prudent to shut his pie-hole?

      (Last entry in the GZ versus NBC case):

      03/24/2014 MEMO MEMORANDUM BY CLERK REQUESTING DOCUMENTS BE FILED VIA THE E-PORTAL TO THOMAS & LOCICERO PL

  57. wordsalad2009
    March 30, 2014 at 11:07 AM

    With regard to video of GZ handing something to attorney Don West after the verdict in his murder/manslaughter trial (YouTube link courtesy of Xena at her blackbutterfly7 blog at wordpress):

    YouTube 20130715

    Per nettles18 at her annettekblog on wordpress, GZ said in his Univision interview that it was a rosary.

    Hmmm, I’m no Catholic (or a practitioner of any other religion that uses a ‘rosary,’ for that matter), but doesn’t a rosary have beads to aid the user in keeping count of their prayers?

    It would have to have been a mighty small rosary, otherwise I would think we’d see at least a portion of it while it was in transition from GZ’s hand to West’s.

    Tawk amongst yourselves.

    • wordsalad2009
      March 30, 2014 at 7:39 PM

      Ah, talking amongst myself again. };-)

      Here is the pertinent excerpt from the English translation of the Univision interview (boldface font my edit for emphasis):

      gxtext at whonoze on wordpress

      IC: What was going through George Zimmerman’s mind when he was waiting for the jury to render its verdict?
      GZ: Um, everybody asks me that because they say–I haven’t seen the video, but they tell me that I had no expression whatsoever. Um, and the answer is easy. I always had in my hands what I always carry with me.
      IC: What is it?
      GZ: A rosary, and I was praying with my rosary in my hand, and, um, I handed it over to–to Mr. West after they declared me innocent, and the whole time that the judge, my lawyers, the jury were talking, I was just praying, and I wasn’t able to hear. I could obviously hear. But I decided to listen only to my prayers and to the Lord.

      Hmmm.

      A typical modern Catholic rosary ‘necklace’ consists of a crucifix and at least 54 ‘functional’ beads (five “decade” groups of 10 beads each, and 4 larger beads separating the decades):

      Catholic Company dot com

      Is it likely that both GZ and Don West could ‘palm’ something like that so that no part of it would be visible during a transfer?

      And why would GZ hand his rosary to attorney Don West instead of putting it in his own pocket?

      It sounds like some more BS from GZ, but why? Why is the guy always so full of BS?

      • wordsalad2009
        March 31, 2014 at 10:36 AM

        Again!

        I wanted to find a video with better resolution of the hand-off, and so far, I’ve found this:

        Jayse Green at YouTube 20130713

        The hand-off is at approximately 03:37 in this version. You see the end of something that appears to be cylindrical in GZ’s hand, and when he hands it to West, West then puts it in his trouser pocket.

        Sure would like a closer look. There may be a capture with even better resolution out there, and I just haven’t found it yet.

        • wordsalad2009
          March 31, 2014 at 12:55 PM

          In addition to Mr. Greene’s captured video of the verdict, I (re)found that of “AJ Noiter.” Whatever one may think of their take on the case, they did some good video captures:

          AJ Noiter at YouTube 20130714

          This particular video is almost two hours long, and the moment of interest is around 46:10-46:11.

          I did some screen captures as still images, cropped one of them to the hands, blew it up, and it seems possible to me that the item in question could be a crucifix (even a habitual liar like GZ probably tells the truth on occasion).

          If it had been some kind of courtroom contraband, it would take cojones the size of calabashes to bandy it about under the nose of a bailiff.

    • 2dogsonly
      April 16, 2014 at 5:34 PM

      If you search on you tube for Zimmerman hand off there’s a close up of tubs handing a key to west. xena has posted his GPS log and it shows daily 3 hr.trips to his attorney .This makes no sense as a lawyer doesn’t want his client in his office day after day so my guess is west was entertaining tubs and tubs was returning his office.key. You could.see.he was much.more emotionally involved.than O’mara.
      How fun. Either the Son he never had or just another may -December romance?

  58. wordsalad2009
    April 1, 2014 at 1:27 PM

    Gary Stein at Context Florida 20140331

    This strange glorification has to stop. My wife’s last name is Zimmerman, and she constantly has to qualify herself on the phone when conducting some kind of business. “NO,”I hear her say, “I’m no relation to THAT Zimmerman.”

    She’s considering changing her last name. She even created a Facebook page for other beleaguered Zimmermans, called ZAG (Zimmermans against George).

    Heh:

    Bad Bad George at Facebook

    However, BBG still seems to be making himself scarce–on twitter, anyway. No tweet since March 24th.

    Is he busy with his various legal cases, busy with an actual job, or is he finally getting ‘smart’ by shutting his annoying cake-hole?

  59. wordsalad2009
    April 3, 2014 at 9:24 PM

    Hat tip to “Rachael” at the blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog for the alert on this:

    Orlando Sentinel 20140403

    The names of the six-member jury panel that acquitted George Zimmerman in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin have been made public for the first time, after a new court order, records show.

    Circuit Judge Debra Nelson, who had previously ordered the jurors’ identifying information be kept confidential, granted access to the names in a ruling March 21.

    I wonder if juror B-37 is nervous.

  60. wordsalad2009
    April 5, 2014 at 3:04 PM

    Where in the World is Gunman Antipático?

    His last tweet (as therealgeorgeZ) was early on March 24th:

    the ‘real’ GZ at twitter 20140324

    That was a Monday. Did he cease to tweet because his lawsuit against NBC is finally starting to get ‘serious,’ or did he finally manage to get a job?

    (Then again, maybe GZ hasn’t give up tweeting; maybe he’s just using a different handle.)

    Getting a steady, paying job seems like it would be all the more important if GZ and SS (samantha_khope at twitter) are going to become parents (yeah, I know: ugh!).

    Both of them seem to be trying to curry favor with sociopolitical conservatives these days, and facing one’s responsibilities is supposedly something the latter rate highly.

    Speaking of pandering to sociopolitical conservatives, that would seem to be Junior’s job these days (rzimmermanjr at twitter). I wonder what his views were before his brother committed homicide.

  61. wordsalad2009
    April 6, 2014 at 8:10 PM

    WPLG Local 10 legal analyst Lee Stapleton opines about GZ (boldface font my edit for emphasis):

    Local 10 20140406

    Local 10 Anchor Todd Tongen: While we’re talking about it, any legal news on the George Zimmerman front?

    Lee Stapleton: Well, you know, George, he always has managed–for a guy that is such a dull, boring guy, he has kept himself in trouble since his verdict

    [Sharp intake of breath] Oooo…

  62. wordsalad2009
    April 7, 2014 at 4:07 PM

    A satire site posted a faux news report that GZ had sold another of his ‘artworks’ for $30,000, this time the subject being TM:

    The News Nerd 20140329

    Today Mediaite and Washington Post picked up the story, explaining for those who didn’t already realize that it was a spoof:

    Mediaite 20140407

    Jonathan Capehart at Washington Post 20140407

    Capehart went to the trouble of contacting Junior, who confirmed that it wasn’t real. (So “[p]rofessional digital pot-stirrers are ‘at it again’,” huh, Junior? Takes one to know one.)

    No one seems to have attempted to contact the horse’s ass, I mean horse’s mouth himself (GZ) for clarification.

  63. wordsalad2009
    April 8, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    A short piece that raises (for me, anyway) a provocative question:

    New York Times 20140405

    While one should indeed be free to put a “Jesus Lives” sign in one’s own front yard, that could possibly invite/incite a neighbor to put a “Praise Satan” or what-have-you sign in theirs.

    To my mind, the best form of proselytizing would be to live the teachings of one’s faith or philosophy.

  64. wordsalad2009
    April 9, 2014 at 5:45 PM

    Hoodies off. No, that’s not some new dress code, that’s apparently what some students at Franklin Regional Senior High School in Murrysville, PA did to help their injured classmates:

    CNN 20140409

    To staunch the bleeding, the teachers asked the students for their hoodies.

    “We all took our hoodies off and handed them to the teachers to use as tourniquets to stop the bleeding,” he said.

    Overall, it sounds like there was a lot of quick thinking going on at a terrible scene that helped to keep it from becoming even worse.

    I read another piece that reported the sixteen-year-old suspect will be charged as an adult.

  65. wordsalad2009
    April 9, 2014 at 6:22 PM

    Junior tweeted yesterday that he would no longer “address the ‘Zimmerman Case’ on twitter:

    Junior at twitter 20140408

    He was making mouth-noises on the 7th about legal action with regard to that Photoshopped picture of GZ holding a headshot ‘painting’ rendition of TM on that satire “The News Nerd” website:

    Junior at twitter 20140407

    Somebody jumped in and asked Junior whether he also planned to sue the person who created a Photoshopped picture of GZ holding a full body ‘painting’ rendition of TM at the homicide scene:

    CallsForJustice 20140407

    Ahem–yeah, talk about your misleading–not to mention tasteless and insensitive.

    Junior sounds like he might be trying to carve out a niche for himself in politics, and is starting to realize what a quagmire his brother is.

    Hey, nobody forced Junior to jump in and reflexively defend a lying killer.

    Like GZ, RZJR appears to be trying to profit from the death of TM.

    Let’s see, what was that advice conservatives used to have for liberal entertainers who would express their political views in public? Oh yeah:

    Shut up and sing.

  66. wordsalad2009
    April 11, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    Shut up and sing.

    Ya know, I didn’t really think this thing through the other day.

    Reconsidering, I think Junior should pursue a career in politics.

    Anybody who pursues a career in U.S. politics is going to have their entire life and that of anybody connected to them mercilessly scrutinized.

    That could prove very, very interesting.

  67. wordsalad2009
    April 11, 2014 at 12:41 PM

    There is a hearing scheduled in the GZ versus NBC Universal Media LLC lawsuit (boldface font my edit for emphasis):

    Seminole County Clerk of Courts

    04/08/2014 NHCY NOTICE OF HEARING ON 6/19/14 @ 9:30AM

    Again: is the reason GZ seems to be silent these days because his lawsuit has begun in earnest?

    Or is it maybe that he’s managed to inveigle enough of his followers into semi-private interactions to satisfy his narcissism?

  68. wordsalad2009
    April 13, 2014 at 8:58 PM

    I don’t quite know what to make of this business in Bunkerville, NV, except to say that it looks like a giant Charlie Foxtrot:

    Daily Mail Online 20140413

  69. wordsalad2009
    April 13, 2014 at 9:12 PM

    While I was perusing the Daily Mail, I ‘couldn’t’ resist this Florida story about a guy who gets out of his car on to look at an alligator, and gets bit by a water moccasin:

    Daily Mail Online Fish Story? 20140413

    The thing is, the DMO story says very specifically “mile marker 49 on I-75.” Well, here’s mile marker 49 on I-75:

    Google Street View

    Mile marker 49 happens to coincide with the exit for “Snake Road” off of I-75 (that section of I-75 is also known as ‘Alligator Alley’).

  70. wordsalad2009
    April 16, 2014 at 1:47 PM

    In going back through the evidence trail, I see some more indications that GZ’s claim that he was looking for an address to be suspect to say the very least:

    Various News 13 Case Resources

    Email on 20120203:

    …between the 1300 and 1400 building…

    Email on 20120207:

    …the 1500 building…

    Email on 20120220:

    …the 2500 building…

    GZ seemed to be sufficiently familiar with the layout of the Retreat at Twin Lakes by February 2012 to cite building ‘numbers.’

  71. wordsalad2009
    April 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM

    A dubious GZ analogy (I had to read it all the way to the last sentence to figure out where the author was going with it):

    America Blog 20140418

    The author raises some valid concerns about Snowdon’s actions/motivations, but the GZ comparison is really, really reaching, in my tiny opinion.

  72. wordsalad2009
    April 19, 2014 at 12:43 PM

    GZ is tweeting again:

    therealGZ at twitter 20140418

    George Zimmerman ‏@TherealGeorgeZ

    Poured my heart & soul into this next painting… Hopefully it will be well received.

    …8:28 AM – 18 Apr 2014

    Ugh. Even if the subject matter of GZ’s latest ‘artistic’ offering doesn’t touch in some way on his killing of Trayvon Martin, the former will still ‘profit’ from it.

    Who would give a sh*t about GZ’s ‘art’ if he wasn’t notorious?

  73. wordsalad2009
    April 20, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    blackbutterfly7 at wordpress 20140420

    I don’t know what to make of reports that Jews in Ukraine are being required to register.

    If they’re real, horrible history could be repeating itself. If they’re part of some kind of propaganda hoax, then that would be another kind of bad history repeating itself.

    Take some time today with family and friends to reminisce because remembering is a form of survival.

  74. wordsalad2009
    April 21, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    BTW, GZ’s first tweet after a silence of over three weeks was another religious para-quote (no real surprise there):

    the ‘real’ GZ at twitter 20140418

    George Zimmerman ‏@TherealGeorgeZ

    I will give him the honors of a victorious soldier because he exposed himself to death… He bore the sins of many…. (Isaiah 53:12)

    …8:24 AM – 18 Apr 2014

    That “victorious warrior” language doesn’t appear in the King James Version; it appears to come from something called the New Living Translation:

    biblegateway dot com, NLT Isiah 53:12I

    That translation allows GZ to fantasize himself as a scapegoat/martyr/messiah/savior, (because Isaiah 53:12 is about Jesus), yet also a “victorious warrior.”

    ‘Nice,’ huh?

    It would seem that GZ’s free therapists haven’t been able to dent his narcissism.

    • wordsalad2009
      April 21, 2014 at 11:52 AM

      Ah, excuse me, that should have read “victorious soldier.”

      I wonder what ever became of GZ’s adolescent desire to become a Marine. Possibly, he found out that he wasn’t made of The Right Stuff.

  75. 2dogsonly
    April 21, 2014 at 2:40 PM

    This is from a expert stunt coordinator. Prosecution never thought to demonstrate tub’s ridiculous explanation.
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=RwUjgdw_2R4

    • wordsalad2009
      April 23, 2014 at 2:25 PM

      Thanks, 2dogsonly.

      It sure looks like the prosecution didn’t really want to win their case.

      The case is so messed up that I can’t quite choose which aspect of it is the most disheartening.

  76. wordsalad2009
    April 23, 2014 at 2:18 PM

    Hat tip to yahtzee at the blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog for the link to Jon Stewart’s skewering of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy:

    Daily Kos 20140422

    CLIVEN BUNDY (4/10/2014): I abide by all of Nevada’s state laws. But I don’t recognize the United States government as even existing.

    [Stewart] You see that thing you’re holding there, fella?…If you reject the American federal government, at least have the decency to create your own damn flag. I don’t give the Confederacy credit for much, but at least they had a graphic design team that was worth its shit.

    wheeze

  77. wordsalad2009
    April 23, 2014 at 7:58 PM

    Xena at the blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog posted an update in GZ’s parents’ lawsuit against Roseanne Barr:

    blackbutterfly7 at wordpress 20140422

    And towerflower at the blackbutterfly7 blog posted a link to a copy of Barr’s lawyers’ response to the suit:

    LA Times PDFcopy of the Lawsuit Response

    The response has the factoid that what Barr had done was retweet somebody else’s ‘handiwork.’

    ‘Strangely,’ Robert Senior and Gladys don’t seem to have gone after the Twitter user who made the original, address-containing tweet.

    Anyway, I don’t think R&G have a leg to stand on, but we’ll see.

  78. wordsalad2009
    April 24, 2014 at 11:47 AM

    Hat tip to Xena at her blackbutterfly7 wordpress for the link to a document with the juror names:

    blackbutterfly7 at wordpress 20140424

    While I’m inclined to feel some sympathy for the jurors overall (especially Maddy), as most of them probably didn’t ask to be put on the jury, I’m interested in more information about Juror B37.

    I hope the feds took a close look at her, but in case they didn’t, We the Little People will. };-)

    • wordsalad2009
      April 25, 2014 at 11:31 AM

      Well, it does look like the Trayvon Martin Support group on Facebook has identified Juror B37. Everything seems to match what was learned about B37 during jury selection.

      I only hope that the TM support group people keep their emotions in check, and not descend into harassing B37.

      As to Juror B37: speak up, girl. That is, unless you’ve already talked to the feds, and have been admonished not to speak again until further notice.

      • 2dogsonly
        April 25, 2014 at 3:17 PM

        She’s toast. Lisa Bloom’s book said she bullied EVERYONE but was really brutal to Maddy. She told them she knew facts they didn’t and her husband was an attorney. She ridiculed other jurors the entire time.

        Those chickens will be coming home to roost and evil 2dogs loves it. I don’t think FBI would have any interest as it’s not juror intimidation but they may have interest in her telling other jurors she has knowledge others don’t.

        • wordsalad2009
          April 25, 2014 at 11:19 PM

          I don’t think FBI would have any interest as it’s not juror intimidation but they may have interest in her telling other jurors she has knowledge others don’t.

          The feds should definitely be interested in a juror claiming to have had ‘insider information.’

          This could get ‘interesting.’

  79. wordsalad2009
    April 25, 2014 at 11:58 PM

    Hmm, here is a pertinent excerpt from Bloom’s book via google:

    Google Books

    (Page 18) One juror would mention that she knew things about the case that hadn’t come up at trial, and that she had a lawyer for a husband…

    Not explicitly described as Juror B37 in this particular excerpt, but unless one of the other jurors was married to a lawyer, it was probably her.

    Also, the way it’s worded, it wouldn’t necessarily be ‘insider information,’ but the jurors were supposed to consider only evidence introduced during the trial, so it’s definitely problematic.

    Here’s another excerpt:

    (Page 19) …the other jurors insisted that they knew aspects of the law or other important facts that had not come in at trial but that they’d seen on the news.

    This excerpt is really troubling:

    (Page 19) One “knew more than we knew,” from the pretrial publicity, Maddy says. She knew that “Trayvon Martin was a bad kid,” though no evidence of that had come into trial, She knew that Trayvon was “intentionally behind Zimmerman, that he knew he was going to hit him, and that he planned his own death

    Oh, she knew all that, huh? It exasperates me when ‘ordinary’ Netizens say stuff like that, but it’s really appalling to think that one of the jurors did.

    (Page 20) In the jury room, Maddy had been persuaded of several gravely incorrect understandings of the law as applied to the case. “They told me not to look at the beginning [where Zimmerman followed Trayvon], just the fight.”

    I have to stop looking at this for awhile, because I’m getting all upset again.

  80. 2dogsonly
    April 26, 2014 at 11:11 AM

    Wordsalad, that is amazing! I bought the book on kindle and could not figure out how to upload this to Xena’s blog or here. Very impressive.

    On another note, it appears Samantha is pregnant. She tweeted she hopes to get her babies (yes plural) out safely along with a couple of other tweets about trying to help someone but it’s never returned.

    I had sent Kelly Mathis a copy of the book :”The Gift of Fear” to give to Shellie before she actually did, in fact, need it and he graciously responded he would pass it to her. Samamtha is very aware of what he’s capable of so hopefully she exits him gently with comments such as ” it’s not you baby, it’s me and refer to herself as the ass…not him. Only then, change locks.

    Anyway, thank you so much for posting Lisa Bloom’s comments exposing how corrupt the trial was.

    • wordsalad2009
      April 26, 2014 at 12:00 PM

      2dogs only,

      That google link is an incomplete copy, and I merely transcribed a few excerpts (I suck pretty hard at transcription).

      You could ask Perfesser whonoze for assistance, but I’m not sure that it’s a good idea to put an entire copy of a copyrighted work out anywhere. I suppose I need to suck it up, and buy a copy myself, but just reading those few excerpts depresses me.

      I think I always ‘knew’ on some level how imperfect our judicial system was, but seeing a concrete example like this is hard to handle.

      Yeah, it sure sounds to me like SS is preggers. Talk about it being hard at times to watch Mother Nature at work. And multiple babies? Ugh.

      She does appear also to be making mouth-noises (via twitter) along the lines of “Don’t tell me (Taurus) what to do,” so maybe she will try to distance herself from him eventually.
      What she might not realize (or maybe just not be able to accept yet) is that if she’s pregnant by that miserable excuse for a human being, she’s tied to him for life.

      So you sent “The Gift of Fear” to SZ. I’m peripherally familiar with that work. It was nice of you to care enough to send her something. Hopefully, SZ is getting her life together. At least she isn’t pregnant by her ex-to-be. That we know of, anyway…

      • 2dogsonly
        April 26, 2014 at 1:07 PM

        Thank you Wordsalad!
        Those links were the most jaw dropping. Here’s a few more ( since mine is kindle I can’t cite p. number)

        Mandy was the only one who had a deputy stationed outside her door the entire time, 24/7.

        One of the jurors, a dog lover,,was granted an 8 hour visitation by her dog. Mandy asked for her visit with her 3 month baby to be increased from normal 1 hour to 8 hours since she saw where this had been granted to dog lover juror.
        This was denied.

        All jurors were bullied by B37 but she was ridiculed nonstop. One juror, guessing B 37, had control of remote and what the others watched was not one Maddy enjoyed. When she finally summoned courage to request her favorite show, she was ridiculed so she stayed in her room.

        It became intolerable for her and she requested to be dismissed. The deputies then came to her room to stress to her to stay, how important she was. More than once she asked to be released.

        When the jurors submitted their question and Judge Corrupt sent instructions back to ask a specific question, they folded. Kind of like raising your hand in class to snickers. Nobody wants to look like a fool and everyone but B37 was allowed to feel less educated than Ms. big shot, lawyer wife.

  81. wordsalad2009
    April 26, 2014 at 12:50 PM

    Here’s another opinion piece:

    Nation Review Online 20140425

    Here’s the part with which I totally agree:

    To this day, I’m baffled by the idea that Zimmerman behaved responsibly when he got out of his car, at night, to follow a kid who was not breaking the law. If you think that’s not a situation fraught with peril, imagine your tension if you found yourself followed at night by a strange man.

    Here are the parts I with which I have trouble:

    But to say that Zimmerman behaved foolishly is not to endorse the state’s prosecution.

    There is a long tradition in one of my principle areas of legal practice (First Amendment) of lawyers zealously defending even fools and cranks from government overreach.

    I hope the author isn’t suggesting that GZ should have gotten off scot-free.

    Did the prosecution over-charge? In light of the released evidence, possibly. The case appears to be almost hopelessly corrupted, so We the Little People may never know the whole story.

    That doesn’t mean GZ isn’t guilty of manslaughter. That seems to me to have been entirely provable, based on the released evidence.

    I think GZ knew at the time that he could have been looking a manslaughter conviction, and because of his schooling, he also knew that could mean twenty years in the slammer.

    I think that’s why he’s put out such a blizzard of half-truths, greasy misdirections and some outright lies about what happened (well, that, and force of habit).

    • 2dogsonly
      April 26, 2014 at 1:41 PM

      One more. Jury was told to only follow self defense portion. Nothing leading up to it was relevant.
      Yep, just the part where the scary black kid possibly, could have scared or punched the white knight in shiny armor.
      Can’t release the hero’s cell records as it would be too explosive but boy, howdy,,we can release the victim’s cell records, school records, 7-11 purchase. And since he didn’t have drugs, we’ll just repeat over and over and over skittles and watermelon tea make a drug. Hoping that not everyone first tries this, sees shit I’m not stoned, let me wiki recipe. Damn, needs a 3 rd ingredient…..a really important ingredient.

      All, is not lost cause scary black kid had a trace of pot and everyone acts like reefer madness is back.

      This was suppose to play out and be over. We gave a trial, really we did. But tubs kept up and it didn’t pan out like it was suppose to.

      • wordsalad2009
        April 26, 2014 at 9:45 PM

        2dogsonly,

        One more. Jury was told to only follow self defense portion. Nothing leading up to it was relevant.

        Yep, that right there is crazy-making: don’t look what the shooter did to create a situation out of thin air.

        Yep, just the part where the scary black kid possibly, could have scared or punched the white knight in shiny armor. Can’t release the hero’s cell records as it would be too explosive

        His records would have shown that he didn’t lovingly prepare a dinner for his wife because she wasn’t home. I sure would like to see those text messages.

        No, I don’t think there was one from SZ telling GZ, “Hey, show me what a man you are by killing someone,” but I think one or more of them might have been along the lines of, “No, I’m not coming home tonight. In fact, I may not be coming back at all, unless you straighten up and fly right. Oh, and Daddy and I have already had supper, so shift for yourself, unbeloved one.”

        Then GZ probably hopped into his truck, looking for some instant ego-gratification via Neighborhood Watch. Poor TM just happened to be outdoors at the Retreat at exactly the worst time.

        but boy, howdy,,we can release the victim’s cell records, school records, 7-11 purchase.

        That’s what’s so messed up about an alleged ‘self-defense’ homicide: the person who is no longer alive is not only not able to give their version of events, but their character can be assassinated, because legally, you can’t libel or slander a dead person. ‘Nice,’ huh?

        And since he didn’t have drugs, we’ll just repeat over and over and over skittles and watermelon tea make a drug. Hoping that not everyone first tries this, sees shit I’m not stoned, let me wiki recipe. Damn, needs a 3 rd ingredient…..a really important ingredient.

        Never mind that Skittles and watermelon fruit juice cocktail aren’t the preferred over-the-counter ingredients for something like that.

        But, hey, let’s say that, theoretically, TM had some prescription cough syrup waiting for him back at the Green townhome, and he was gonna mix himself up a little ‘cocktail.’
        (Oh, and never mind that that kind of cocktail isn’t known to make the consumer violent, more likely just sleepy.)

        GZ ‘knew’ that–exactly how? How did he know that this kid who was doing nothing more alarming than talking on his phone was “up to no good?”

        Answer: he didn’t. GZ was out looking for some glory because his wife had just injured his fragile little ego, and a young, black male was an easy mark because it was ‘okay’ to profile them.

        Am I speculating? Hell, yes. If everybody else can do it, why can’t I?

        All, is not lost cause scary black kid had a trace of pot and everyone acts like reefer madness is back.

        Boy, wouldn’t you have loved to have seen a toxicology report on GZ from that night? But the laws right now are stacked in favor of armed assholics.

        This was suppose to play out and be over. We gave a trial, really we did. But tubs kept up and it didn’t pan out like it was suppose to.

        I wonder if anybody ever gave GZ a job. Why do I suspect that even his most fervent admirers prefer to admire him at a distance?

        And now he has multiple children on the way. Oh, ‘nice.’

  82. wordsalad2009
    April 27, 2014 at 7:45 PM

    Hmmm, this is an interesting tweet:

    samantha_khope at twitter

    Samantha Scheibe ‏@samantha_khope

    @JodiPetersen1 yes. I’m just done lying and pretending!

    …11:09 AM – 24 Apr 2014

  83. wordsalad2009
    April 27, 2014 at 8:43 PM

    Hmm, now Johnathan Good (the witness who recanted his statements about TM using “MMA style” blows on GZ) has a book out:

    Amazon 20140421

    • 2dogsonly
      April 28, 2014 at 10:31 AM

      I just left a comment on the Amazon site. Please everyone go there and express yourself. What a despicable liar. He was the only one who had 4 interviews as when FDLE got involved, it got real quickly. He knew tubs was the one proficient in MMA, at least was trying to be. ” Black person was raining blows down on white guy” .

      • wordsalad2009
        April 28, 2014 at 11:08 PM

        2dogsonly,

        I went to Axiom Amnesia to refresh my memory a bit on what Good had said in his various police statements, and got side-tracked almost right off the bat.

        In his interview with FDLE on 20120320, he said, “I believe it was the same weekend as the Daytona 500…”

        Why, yes, yes, it was, but why drag that little factoid into it, unless he was going somewhere with that? Was he going for some male-bonding with the interviewer? If so, I’m thinking that he missed the mark.

        If Good were at all a NASCAR racing fan, he would have known that the Daytona 500 was indeed scheduled to run on that Sunday, but at 17:10, it was postponed until Monday because of weather. It was apparently the first such postponement in Daytona 500 history:

        wikipedia

        Ya know, ordinarily I would be inclined to feel some sympathy for anybody caught up in a homicide case as a witness; I’m sure it is stressful.

        But me buy a copy of Good’s 43-page sob-story? Nuh uh.

        • 2dogsonly
          April 29, 2014 at 10:50 AM

          That Daytona 500 was an addition probably spin to calm himself before his serious lying to FDLE. I listened to beginning of his radio interview and he went back to : “I was on the porch putting together furniture for my love”.

          You don’t have to read it. My comment just addressed the 4 interviews and it was his lying which started the ball rolling, etc. Maybe his first interview that night could be attributed to typical eye witness stress getting it wrong.
          However, when FDLE came a calling and he backed down but then didn’t to O’Mara, he defined himself as just as evil. How many times did O’Mara refer to him as the eye witness and he never jumped in to correct him.
          He knew tubs had taken MMA classes but lied it was the victim raining those blows down.

          I didn’t read papa zim’s book either but I sure left a
          comment about his teaser chapter.
          If we leave tub’s version unopposed many people who don’t read books will keep believing everyone but the dead kid was the true victim.

          Btw,I am cautious consumer on amazon.

          Thanks word salad for all your work on here!

        • 2dogsonly
          April 29, 2014 at 11:09 AM

          Correction, I am cautious shopper on amazon. Btw, just clicked on book, no one else has commented so I hope that’s due to lack of interest. 47 pages for 7.00 only on kindle.
          what a moron

  84. wordsalad2009
    April 28, 2014 at 5:26 PM

    GZ’s latest martyr fantasy:

    the ‘real’ GZ at twitter 20140428

    George Zimmerman ‏@TherealGeorgeZ

    The bloodthirsty hate blameless people, but the upright seek to help them. (Proverbs 29:10) Thank you to all the “upright” who helped me.
    …10:46 AM – 28 Apr 2014

    A-a-a-nd let’s just check the ‘integrity’ of his quotation:

    Bible Hub dot com

    New International Version
    The bloodthirsty hate a person of integrity and seek to kill the upright.

    New Living Translation
    The bloodthirsty hate blameless people, but the upright seek to help them.

    English Standard Version
    Bloodthirsty men hate one who is blameless and seek the life of the upright.

    New American Standard Bible
    Men of bloodshed hate the blameless, But the upright are concerned for his life.

    King James Bible
    The bloodthirsty hate the upright: but the just seek his soul.

    Holman Christian Standard Bible
    Bloodthirsty men hate an honest person, but the upright care about him.

    International Standard Version
    Bloodthirsty men hate the innocent person, but the upright show concern for his life.

    NET Bible
    Bloodthirsty people hate someone with integrity; as for the upright, they seek his life.

    Aramaic Bible in Plain English
    Men that are shedders of blood hate The Pure One and the righteous love him.

    GOD’S WORD® Translation
    Bloodthirsty people hate an innocent person, but decent people seek [to protect] his life.

    Jubilee Bible 2000
    The bloodthirsty hate the perfect, but the just seek his soul.

    King James 2000 Bible
    The bloodthirsty hate the upright: but the just seek his good.

    American King James Version
    The bloodthirsty hate the upright: but the just seek his soul.

    American Standard Version
    The bloodthirsty hate him that is perfect; And as for the upright, they seek his life.

    Douay-Rheims Bible
    Bloodthirsty men hate the upright: but just men seek his soul.

    Darby Bible Translation
    The bloodthirsty hate the perfect, but the upright care for his soul.

    English Revised Version
    The bloodthirsty hate him that is perfect: and as for the upright, they seek his life.

    Webster’s Bible Translation
    The blood-thirsty hate the upright: but the just seek his soul.

    World English Bible
    The bloodthirsty hate a man of integrity; and they seek the life of the upright.

    Young’s Literal Translation
    Men of blood hate the perfect, And the upright seek his soul.

    Well, at least he didn’t choose the “Aramaic Bible in Plain English” version, but isn’t it ironic that killer GZ sees others as bloodthirsty?

    • 2dogsonly
      April 29, 2014 at 10:59 AM

      ” the bloodthirsty hate blameless people but the good people help”
      ramping up his slush fund in the name of righteousness.
      If you want to get to heaven, here is my new web site donate page.

      Oldest con in the world. He’s just perfected it.

      • wordsalad2009
        April 29, 2014 at 11:17 AM

        2dogsonly,

        It just amazes/appalls me how many people still seem willing to buy into it.

        I am wondering what SS’s ‘game’ is these days.

  85. wordsalad2009
    April 29, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    Normally I don’t like to give Junior any more attention that he’s already gotten because of pandering for his killer brother, but this one caught my eye:

    Junior at twitter 20140427

    Robert Zimmerman JR ‏@rzimmermanjr

    @YourAnonNews #doxing #federalcrime #blocked

    …8:27 PM – 27 Apr 2014

    The thing is, the tweet/tweeter Junior was referencing/blocking on 27 April <2014 tweeted an incorrect address for GZ on 23 Mar 2012.

    Slow news day or what, Junior?

  86. wordsalad2009
    April 29, 2014 at 11:29 AM

    2dogsonly,

    That Daytona 500 was an addition probably spin to calm himself before his serious lying to FDLE. I listened to beginning of his radio interview and he went back to : “I was on the porch putting together furniture for my love”.

    Um–what? Did that “putting together furniture” business appear in any of his police statements, or is Good now borrowing anecdotes from Manalo?

    Thanks word salad for all your work on here!

    You’re welcome, but I’m not doing anything more than biding my time, waiting for the feds to weigh in with their final decision.

    It’s people like Perfesser whonoze, tchoupi, et al who did all the heavy lifting on this particular blog.

    Oh, and thanks to you and all the regulars at the blackbutterfly7 blog for all the work you’ve done on the Trayvon Martin homicide and other cases that need public scrutiny.

    • 2dogsonly
      April 29, 2014 at 3:44 PM

      Due to your great memory for detail! I went back to Axiom Amnesia to see what John Goode actually said in his interview on 2/26/12 .He was very DETAILED on what he saw. THREE Minutes of Exactly what he witnessed.
      -Guy in orange being whipped MMA style
      -by guy in hoodie.
      -Sidewalk head scene pounding

      BUT On 3/20/12 when FDLE interviewed him for 40 minutes, story completely changed. Instead, he says he:
      -only took one step out
      -it was very dark,
      -he did not see anything.
      -initially thought it was two dogs fighting.
      – Closed door,
      -came back inside and
      – called 911.

      It is 100% DIFFERENT from the very DETAILED story he told SPD in his first 3 minute interview. There is a you tube video slowing down this call and by amplifying it, conversation can be heard in the background and it is two men talking. So, it is Jeramy talking with John Goode because you hear Jeramy ask “where”. And Goode answer ” behind me”.
      Jeramy begins speaking with a MALE as call picks up two muffled but distinctly MALE voices while Lauer is still on 911 call. Although much is blocked out by redaction of address, it is two MALE voices talking while Lauer is on 911 call.

      This had to be PLANNED between Jeramy and John Goode!
      Goode’s account was told without one second of hesitation in his voice. Not one bit of stress. Sounds like he could have been reading a script rather than explaining what he witnessed, a murder right outside his back door. Relayed as though he lives in the hood where gun shots are quite normal. Just another Sunday evening in our gated HOA. Nothing to see here– move on, people.

      BDLR doesn’t ask him why he said xyz on 2/26 and zyx on 3/20. And O’Mara referred to him as the EYE WITNESS over and over.
      Each little piece of what happened is slowly coming out. And it is all due to tubs not being able to STFU. And stay out of the spotlight.

      I’m a retired clinical social worker and I really think Goode’s conscience is eating at him otherwise why call attention to his part in letting a child’s killer go free. OJ and Casey Anthony’s family never published books like tubs bffs. This can’t be about money as even best selling authors earn very little (tv interview w/ Mark Geragos and Jeffrey Tobbin). Goode’s Kendall 47 page almost nothing.

      • wordsalad2009
        April 29, 2014 at 8:32 PM

        2dogsonly,

        My memory is pretty far from excellent, I assure you, but you’re right, Witness #6 Johnathan Good was very specific when he was interviewed on the night of the homicide.

        At the very end of the recording, the interviewer (Serino, I think, he talked mad-man fast) said that he was ending the interview at “nine-twelve” (21:12), so this interview was done within two hours of the homicide. (Had Good been talking to others on-scene prior to the interview?)

        Then the authorities wait until March 20th–over three freaking weeks–to interview Good again, and his story has changed–not just a little, but a whole lot.

        I would hope that Good’s conscience is bothering him, because that would mean he has some decency.

        But what if it’s just that he couldn’t handle all the public scrutiny and criticism, so he felt he had to put out a ‘pity-party’ book?

        Eh, somewhere my mood ring is dark and cloudy…

        • 2dogsonly
          April 29, 2014 at 9:06 PM

          IF he did that for a pity party, he made a huge mistake cause I am getting ready to copy and paste what I wrote. No one would have remembered this but hopefully DOJ is taking notice.
          Lying liar SOB
          Thanks for seeing if I’m just paranoid wacko or if there is something to this. And big time thanks to the you tube video guy who slowed down 911 call.

        • 2dogsonly
          April 29, 2014 at 9:08 PM

          Is it ok if I ask Xena to copy and paste this to her blog? Or can you do it. Thanks!

  87. wordsalad2009
    April 29, 2014 at 12:58 PM

    Here’s a good piece about self-defense, burden of proof, and the GZ case that I somehow seem to have missed reading at the time it first came out (probably because of the avalanche of stuff about the case):

    Slate 20130716

    The whole thing deserves a read, but this in particular spoke to me:

    What enrages many people about the verdict is the implicit assumption Martin, not Zimmerman, started the fight.

    In my case, whether it’s rage or exasperation depends on a lot of factors, including my mood (hmmm, where’s my mood ring?).

  88. 2dogsonly
    April 29, 2014 at 9:29 PM

    I think you’ll may have his audio enhancement but in case

  89. wordsalad2009
    April 30, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    2dogsonly

    Is it ok if I ask Xena to copy and paste this to her blog? Or can you do it. Thanks!

    Not sure what it is you want to copy/paste?

    wordsalad

    • 2dogsonly
      May 1, 2014 at 10:01 PM

      Asking if you could post my bit about John Goode’s presto chango interviews. Also, the slowed down replay.

      There’s not much interest in Goode’s book but there should be, IMHO. Without his ” eye witness” testimony, tubs might not have walked.

      Tower flower posted a comment on amazon and I answered two that were not aware of how he (Goode) perjured himself.

      Thanks in advance, word salad

      • wordsalad2009
        May 2, 2014 at 1:56 PM

        2dogsonly,

        Asking if you could post my bit about John Goode’s presto chango interviews. Also, the slowed down replay.

        Post it where? Are you having some technical difficulties somewhere else?

        • 2dogsonly
          May 2, 2014 at 3:06 PM

          Where to post it?
          Post it to xena’s blog. No technical difficulties just no technical skills on the iPad. Can cut and paste an entire page but not bits and pieces.
          Also, not sure if it’s okey dokey with whonoze’s rules. The ” okey dokey” is for the professor….cause I can see him cringing. 😉

        • 2dogsonly
          May 2, 2014 at 3:33 PM

          I just posted it on xena’s blog. 😉

  90. wordsalad2009
    May 1, 2014 at 8:22 PM

    GZ’s lawsuit against NBC Universal Media, LLC seems to be making some progress:

    WP Opinion Piece 20140501

    The Erik Wemple Blog Court rules that the network’s motion to dismiss (or for summary judgment) must be routed to the nearest shredder. Whatever you make of all the legalese that gets tossed around in these filings, NBC’s actions amounted to a journalistic felony that demands a full hearing in the courts.

    Hmmm, if we were talking about whoever it was that edited the promo for Dr. Phil’s show that I saw (it paired a question with the answer to a different question), I’d actually think GZ had a valid complaint, but the NBC situation? Not so much.

    However, it might be ‘productive’ if this lawsuit proceeds for a different reason:

    As to the question of whether Zimmerman used that terrible epithet in referring to Martin in the 911 call, Zimmerman’s lawyers have this to say: “In this case, such testimony can be provided by the plaintiff, the dispatcher and others, including the investigators who attested in a sworn affidavit filed with the Court in the criminal proceedings against Mr. Zimmerman that he did not use a racial slur, but instead said ‘f________ punks.’ In addition, the audio-recording itself is available,” says the Zimmerman filing.

    I want audio experts to take a good, hard look (or listen, as it were) at GZ’s NEN call. No freakin’ way did he say, “F*cking punks.”

    …you’ve got to ask yourself one question: ‘Do I feel lucky?’ Well, do ya, punk?

    Dirty Harry (1971)

    Motion to Dismiss 20140321

    Answer to Motion to Dismiss 20140330

  91. 2dogsonly
    May 1, 2014 at 10:03 PM

    Lordy, this is litigious clan. Two lawsuits in the fire??
    Guess they don’t feel hated enough.

    • wordsalad2009
      May 2, 2014 at 1:54 PM

      2dogsonly,

      No kidding.

      In Mom and Pop’s case, sure, they put up their home for GZ’s bond, but he didn’t go on the lam, so they got that back. Both of them have government pensions (Pops has two, actually), so it doesn’t seem to me like they’re hurting overly much. Besides which, Barr didn’t cause their problems.

      In GZ’s case? He ain’t hurtin’ enough.

  92. wordsalad2009
    May 2, 2014 at 2:10 PM

    Hat tip to Xena at the blackbutterfly7 blog for this piece on proselytizing:

    blackbutterfly7 at wordpress 20140501

    What some don’t seem to realize is that door-to-door (or telephone calls, emails, etc.) proselytizing is soliciting.

    If people don’t want it (especially if somebody has a “No Soliciting” sign on their door), doing it, especially repeatedly, is harassment.

    I’ve said it before, but it’s worth saying again: the best form of proselytizing is to live the teachings of one’s faith.

    Actually, I wonder if that wasn’t what made Sammy Davis Jr. decide to become a Jew: he was a member of the (in)famous Rat Pack, and maybe he decided that the most together-as-a-human-being member seemed to be Joey Bishop.

    • wordsalad2009
      May 2, 2014 at 3:06 PM

      Ah, it appears to have been a result of SDJR’s friendship with Eddie Cantor:

      wikipedia

      While in San Bernardino’s Community Hospital, Davis’ friend, performer Eddie Cantor, told him about the similarities between the Jewish and black cultures. Prompted by this conversation, Davis—who was born to a Catholic mother and Protestant father—began studying the history of Jews. He formally converted to Judaism several years later, in 1961.

    • wordsalad2009
      May 3, 2014 at 11:48 AM

      Egad! I found out through following the commentary on Xena’s “proselytizing” piece that at least some Jehovah’s Witnesses actually do have quotas to fulfill (thankfully, they don’t all appear to work this way).

      Door-to-door soliciting is just rude, and proselytizing is a form of soliciting. Yes, it is.

      When I want to ‘buy’ something, I go to a catalog, the Internet, or a brick-and-mortar store. I do not want hopeful ‘merchants’ knocking on my door, or calling me on the phone.

      • 2dogsonly
        May 3, 2014 at 3:46 PM

        My suggestion to her was use the SYG and scream through door :” I am in fear for my life and this is my warning”.

        Pop over to her site, one of the JW is attempting to convert her. How he obtained her blog heading, is just a little creepy?They probably have a google search alert for the name ” JW”

        • wordsalad2009
          May 3, 2014 at 4:19 PM

          2dogsonly,

          My suggestion to her was use the SYG and scream through door :” I am in fear for my life and this is my warning”.

          I saw that, and while it’s funny on a certain level, it’s also dangerous, because you really don’t know what kind of potential maniac is knocking on your door. They could actually be packing heat. However, if somebody is persistently bothering you, hey, call 911 on them. Hmmm, I wonder if you can get a restraining order against an entire church? };-)

          Pop over to her site, one of the JW is attempting to convert her. How he obtained her blog heading, is just a little creepy?They probably have a google search alert for the name ” JW”

          I saw those posts; that’s how I learned that some JW’s apparently do have actual quotas.

          Ya know, call me kwazy, but Xena says it’s only become a problem for her in the last year: what if it’s some GZ fanatic who’s just using JW proselytizing as a cover for covert harassment?

  93. wordsalad2009
    May 2, 2014 at 3:32 PM

    2dogsonly,

    2dogsonly
    May 2, 2014 at 3:06 PM
    Quote

    Where to post it?
    Post it to xena’s blog. No technical difficulties just no technical skills on the iPad. Can cut and paste an entire page but not bits and pieces.
    Also, not sure if it’s okey dokey with whonoze’s rules. The ” okey dokey” is for the professor….cause I can see him cringing. 😉

    Hmmm, I’ve never used an iPad, but I’m aware that every platform has its ‘peculiarities.’

    I probably shouldn’t be speaking for the Perfesser (yeah, I know that isn’t the correct spelling; I use it as a term of affection–Hi Perfesser!) whonoze, but I don’t think he’d mind, however; if you don’t want to cut/paste the entire thing, you could try this:

    Cut the entire page, paste it into something simple like notepad, edit it there, and then paste the results onto Xena’s blog.

    P.S. If you really want to ‘send’ the Perfesser, you could try saying “Oakley Doakley” like The Simpson’s Ned Flanders. Somehow, I think he’d enjoy cringing to that. Eh, maybe I’m confusing/conflating him with unitron.

    • 2dogsonly
      May 2, 2014 at 5:45 PM

      Thanks word salad! I was able to do it!

  94. wordsalad2009
    May 2, 2014 at 7:37 PM

    2dogsonly,

    I was just reading back through, and only just now noticed this theory of yours about what it was that GZ handed to Don West after the verdict:

    2dogsonly
    April 16, 2014 at 5:34 PM
    Reply | Quote

    If you search on you tube for Zimmerman hand off there’s a close up of tubs handing a key to west. xena has posted his GPS log and it shows daily 3 hr.trips to his attorney .This makes no sense as a lawyer doesn’t want his client in his office day after day so my guess is west was entertaining tubs and tubs was returning his office.key. You could.see.he was much.more emotionally involved.than O’mara.
    How fun. Either the Son he never had or just another may -December romance?

    Thanks, that makes perfect sense. The handed-off item being an office key, that is. Why West seemed so emotionally invested is a whole ‘nother thang… };-)

  95. wordsalad2009
    May 3, 2014 at 11:34 AM

    Satirists are still milking GZ:

    Epoch Times 20140502

    The Daily Currant, the satire site, published the story about Zimmerman, saying that “in a statement released on its website this morning the organization’s Florida branch said it decided to honor the man who killed Trayvon Martin for his subsequent work at a local YMCA, where he gives free boxing lessons to underprivileged black youths.”

    It adds: “Every day George comes into the gym and jousts with young black men. As an expert boxer, he could be paid thousands for his work. But he doesn’t ask for a dime. Do you know why? Because George Zimmerman cares about the black community.”

    Hopefully by now, most people have learned to look for the “this website is satire” disclaimer before getting their body linen in a bunch over a ‘news’ story.

  96. wordsalad2009
    May 3, 2014 at 1:51 PM

    Wow, this is news to me:

    blackbutterfly7 at wordpress 20140502

    Xena | 05/02/2014 at 6:56 pm…

    There is a witness who saw GZ jump in front of Trayvon and push him. She spoke confidentially to a journalist. It is my hope that she has interviewed with the feds. If not, I hope she has nightmares about what she saw for the rest of her life.

    Xena, if you read here: do you have any more info/links about this?

    Yeah, I would hope that anybody who’d witnessed something like that would come forward, or have nightmares for the rest of their lives. Same thing If they maliciously made it all up. Alternately, if they’re ‘just’ delusional, they’re to be pitied, but delusions like that are damned exasperating…

    • 2dogsonly
      May 3, 2014 at 3:40 PM

      That is pretty explosive and I can’t see Xena posting that without input from journalist. Man, I so hope everything crooked comes out.

      • wordsalad2009
        May 3, 2014 at 4:02 PM

        2dogsonly,

        That is pretty explosive and I can’t see Xena posting that without input from journalist. Man, I so hope everything crooked comes out.

        No kidding. Sure would be nice to know more. I can see scenarios where a witness saw something, but was afraid to come forward.

        You know, somebody over at the annettekblog was recently commenting about TM’s father visiting Witness #6 Johnathan Good (apparently per JG in his radio interview, I haven’t yet mustered the inhuman patience to listen to that whole thing), and how they could see where JG might have felt intimidated by a guy with tattoos.

        That was a remark I found a bit exasperating, because the person making it (a GZ supporter) probably can’t see any reason why a Retreat resident might have felt intimidated by a tattooed Neighborhood Watch coordinator.

        There were stories from residents who’d felt harassed by GZ, and if he in fact was also some kind of stooge for local law enforcement, I can definitely understand a witness feeling apprehensive about coming forward with unfavorable (indeed, downright “explosive”) information about him.

        • 2dogsonly
          May 3, 2014 at 5:46 PM

          Tray’s tats wouldn’t have been visible..I believe it was prayer hands and heart w/ mom or grand mom love but anyway they weren’t visible.

          Tubs’s had a gang tattoo , Manassas has large gang population.(his tat was cleverly covered up in his walk through). There is one brief second showing. He was the intimidating one and crept around HOA with lights off.

          But, really tats are very main stream now and even back in 2012 so whatever she’s said about tats isn’t why this lady never came forward.

          Dave is a FB friend of mine and we touched bases last week. He mentioned he had a nice phone talk w Xena.. Didn’t know he knew her but there is no reason I would know. He mentioned he didn’t think tubs would ever serve time. I surmised it was in reference to the DOJ case but I didn’t ask. It was just really brief and he was heading to sell his guitar.

          I’m going to listen to Good’s interview.:-(

          There’s another case in Jax. And on the comment board someone said FDLE was crooked and so was that Det. In tub’s bond hearing that mentioned stippling( I’m blocking on his name ).i am very cautious in conspiracy conclusions.but I know Osterman was there.
          …..That is kind of fun to watch cause she is dead silent for about 60 seconds or so.He breaks it by “you have authority” bonding chitchat. Gets no response from her so then he attempts to gain sympathy by saying ” my wife is a basket case” . Still no chatting from Det. but then she softens and asks so what did your wife think when you didn’t come home? Was she worried.”
          …He says ” No”.this nice eye witness ( Manola) had offered to call his wife and “she called my friend Mark who was there and they were here in about 5 minutes.”.
          He also begins by saying he thought it was a policeman and asked him if he would call his wife but the cop said no so he asked this eyewitness…..that was odd cause tubs is kneeling with his phone to his ear ( calling MO?) and never again mentions first asking a cop to call his wife being refused and then neighbor calls wife who calls my friend Mark.

          I thought the escort bond guard looked like MO with much weight added but someone said no, that was a guy from bonding office” but it sure looks like him and he sure took tubs and Shellie into his home while shit was erupting and where he has a small child and wife. Also, accompanies him 2/27 to interview and he’s also heard in background prompting tubs on what to say..” Say this cause they like to hear…” It’s edited out on most of walk thru vids. But there is one posted where they had not cut it.

          That entire walk thru seemed staged…the car parked to obscure address and the AA mother and child running up sidewalk and no one out in street, no cars driving. Of course, we know his Dad was by the walk thru and Shellie was there but no other typical out n about. At this time, people wouldn’t be enraged so what was the caution about?

  97. wordsalad2009
    May 3, 2014 at 7:16 PM

    2dogsonly,

    <

    blockquote>Tray’s tats wouldn’t have been visible..I believe it was prayer hands and heart w/ mom or grand mom love but anyway they weren’t visible.

    Actually, the commenter was talking about Tracy Martin’s tattoos.

    I haven’t heard the part of Good’s radio interview where he mentioned Tracy, but the latter reportedly approached JG on the morning of 20120227, before the media guy did.

    I can only imagine Tracy Martin that morning: he’d only just got through identifing his dead son (via Officer Wagner’s photo), and was probably in a state of shock. He naturally would have wanted to talk to one of the last people to have seen his son alive.

    Tubs’s had a gang tattoo , Manassas has large gang population.(his tat was cleverly covered up in his walk through). There is one brief second showing. He was the intimidating one and crept around HOA with lights off.

    Eh, my ‘favorite’ part of GZ’s get-up the day of his ‘re-enactment was the bandages: the butterfly bandages on the lacerations that, per the medical personnel who’d seen and treated him, weren’t necessary, and the one going vertically down the top of his nose that would not have been at all functional if his nose really was broken.

    I think the ‘function’ of those bandages was simultaneously to garner sympathy, and to conceal from scrutiny in broad daylight how slight his injuries really were.

    But, really tats are very main stream now and even back in 2012 so whatever she’s said about tats isn’t why this lady never came forward.

    True enough, tattoos are common as dirt nowadays. I was just mouthing off because of the GZ supporter who thought Tracy Martin with his tattoos would seem ‘threatening,’ but apparently GZ and his tats are just fine.

    Dave is a FB friend of mine and we touched bases last week. He mentioned he had a nice phone talk w Xena.. Didn’t know he knew her but there is no reason I would know. He mentioned he didn’t think tubs would ever serve time. I surmised it was in reference to the DOJ case but I didn’t ask. It was just really brief and he was heading to sell his guitar.

    Is this Marinade Dave?

    I’m going to listen to Good’s interview.:-(

    Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to make it all the way through. Helpful hint: Good doesn’t put in an ‘appearance’ (it’s a telephone interview) until over sixteen minutes into the show. There are about five talking head hosts, and they didn’t seem terribly familiar with the case. They tawked amongst themselves frequently, and as a consequence, I was in and out of the room, taking care of business.

    There’s another case in Jax. And on the comment board someone said FDLE was crooked and so was that Det. In tub’s bond hearing that mentioned stippling( I’m blocking on his name ).i am very cautious in conspiracy conclusions.but I know Osterman was there.

    Unclear on this. The ‘witness’ I remember from GZ’s first bond hearing is Investigator Dale Gilbreath who I thought acquitted himself quite well, considering that he was working without notes. He didn’t expect O’Mara to try to turn his bond hearing testimony into a mini-trial.

    …..That is kind of fun to watch cause she is dead silent for about 60 seconds or so.He breaks it by “you have authority” bonding chitchat. Gets no response from her so then he attempts to gain sympathy by saying ” my wife is a basket case” . Still no chatting from Det. but then she softens and asks so what did your wife think when you didn’t come home? Was she worried.”

    Is this the source of the now infamous “My wife is a mess” GZ quote?

    Yah, that’s it Sonny Jim. Nothing is ever your fault; it’s always somebody else’s. You had the greatness of Neighborhood Watch thrust upon yourself because The Little Woman was such a scaredy cat.

    You know, never mind that your history of police calls predates your marriage by at least three years:

    Mother Jones PDF of GZ’s Police Call History

    Jeff Weiner of the Orlando Sentinel’s PDF of SZ’s Divorce Petition

    …He says ” No”.this nice eye witness ( Manola) had offered to call his wife and “she called my friend Mark who was there and they were here in about 5 minutes.”. He also begins by saying he thought it was a policeman and asked him if he would call his wife but the cop said no so he asked this eyewitness…..that was odd cause tubs is kneeling with his phone to his ear ( calling MO?) and never again mentions first asking a cop to call his wife being refused and then neighbor calls wife who calls my friend Mark.

    I thought the escort bond guard looked like MO with much weight added but someone said no, that was a guy from bonding office”

    That guy was identified in some press piece that I can’t lay my hands on right this minute (it was somebody from the bond bail outfit).

    but it sure looks like him and he sure took tubs and Shellie into his home while shit was erupting and where he has a small child and wife. Also, accompanies him 2/27 to interview and he’s also heard in background prompting tubs on what to say..” Say this cause they like to hear…” It’s edited out on most of walk thru vids. But there is one posted where they had not cut it.

    Osterman would be a figure of tragi-comedy were it not for the firearms–and his history with the Seminole County Sheriff’s Department.

    That entire walk thru seemed staged…the car parked to obscure address and the AA mother and child running up sidewalk and no one out in street, no cars driving. Of course, we know his Dad was by the walk thru and Shellie was there but no other typical out n about. At this time, people wouldn’t be enraged so what was the caution about?

    I dunno, but the whole thing is pretty off-putting, to say the least.

  98. wordsalad2009
    May 3, 2014 at 7:19 PM

    Woo hoo! I only minorly screwed up the HTML in that last post. I think I need to quit for the evening.

  99. 2dogsonly
    May 5, 2014 at 9:44 AM

    Ok, I took one for the team and listened to entire John Goode radio interview and left a long comment ( that totally made it worth it).
    It was highly disappointing as being an AA radio station I thought there would be more hard balled questions. John Goode only speaks briefly. He says:

    1.Poor ME….Only child, mom died, grandmother ill or something along the poor me scenario. Do they all use the same play book?
    2. No violence in Sanford but violence in other cities. I corrected this on my comment. There was no violence anywhere due to Sabrina and Tracy.
    3. Tracy came to his home three days later but he ” couldn’t tell him what happened as he didn’t see anything”. Nothing about tattoos or any fear of Tracy. That Nettles just throws stuff out to advance big scary black folks. She is really an imbecile.
    4. The commentator finally said in his SYG class, his instructor had said if you’re the instigator you can not use SYG and did Goode think tubs pursuing Trayvon made a difference. Commentator also wondered why wasn’t this part of SYG law introduced in trial. I was thrilled to hear that.
    5. Commentator also mentioned it was John Goode’s testimony which set tubs free. Author did most of speaking and pushed book on website over and over. Didn’t know 47 pages is now called a book and no longer a pamphlet.

    So, bottom line Tracy went to ask this self proclaimed “eye witness”what he saw in the shooting of his son.” This “Eye”witness, all of a sudden, saw nothing cause ” I was only out there 8 seconds” which is actually time to see plenty if you count it off. Goode is a poor liar and what he saw and did flips back and forth even though his various versions are easily assessed.

    • wordsalad2009
      May 5, 2014 at 11:41 AM

      2dogsonly,

      Ok, I took one for the team and listened to entire John Goode radio interview and left a long comment ( that totally made it worth it).

      Man, we need to get you a purple heart.

      It was highly disappointing as being an AA radio station I thought there would be more hard balled questions. John Goode only speaks briefly.

      Yah, I myself was a bit appalled at how little they seemed to know about the case, but then I told myself that this itself was actually a form of progress. The AA community should not be expected to ‘act as one’ any more than any other group. They’re individual humans.

      Also, what are the odds that Good would have agreed to do the interview if he’d had any inkling he would be asked tough questions?

      He says: 1.Poor ME….Only child, mom died, grandmother ill or something along the poor me scenario. Do they all use the same play book?

      The “only child” bit is interesting, because to me it gives insight. Children without siblings do tend to be different from children with siblings. I’ll have to think about that some more.

      2. No violence in Sanford but violence in other cities. I corrected this on my comment. There was no violence anywhere due to Sabrina and Tracy.

      Not sure I understand this. So Good’s perception was that Sanford was a peaceful place?

      3. Tracy came to his home three days later but he ” couldn’t tell him what happened as he didn’t see anything”.

      Okay, huge difference. So per Good, Tracy visited him three days later, as opposed to the next day?

      Nothing about tattoos or any fear of Tracy. That Nettles just throws stuff out to advance big scary black folks. She is really an imbecile.

      Actually, it was one of Nettles18’s ‘guests’ who said that they could imagine Good feeling intimidated by Tracy and his tattoos. Eh, projection, or deliberate propagandizing? Dunno.

      4. The commentator finally said in his SYG class, his instructor had said if you’re the instigator you can not use SYG and did Goode think tubs pursuing Trayvon made a difference.

      Now, that’s interesting, and I completely missed hearing it. I don’t have a lot of patience with sequential access information, and that interview with so many different talking heads was particularly difficult for me.

      Commentator also wondered why wasn’t this part of SYG law introduced in trial. I was thrilled to hear that.

      This is the juncture where an ‘exasperated’ GS supporter would tell you that SYG had absolutely nothing to do with the case.

      It would also be the point where I would be exasperated and point out that SYG permeated the entire case, indeed SYG completely permeates the popular imagination when it comes to self-defense.

      The Sanford Police were very chary about arresting GZ at first, citing it, and O’Mara didn’t tip his hand for the longest about whether he would ask for a SYG hearing. I think he knew pretty early on that he couldn’t, wouldn’t, use a SYG defense, but he wasn’t going to acknowledge that a moment earlier than he had to. Let the public (and the potential jury pool) marinate in SYG. Then of course, there was SYG language in the jury instructions.

      5. Commentator also mentioned it was John Goode’s testimony which set tubs free. Author did most of speaking and pushed book on website over and over. Didn’t know 47 pages is now called a book and no longer a pamphlet.

      Yeah, we seem to have reached that pass in modern culture where something less than fifty pages is a “book.”

      So, bottom line Tracy went to ask this self proclaimed “eye witness”what he saw in the shooting of his son.”

      That seems quite natural to me. If I were a parent who’d just lost a child, I’d want to talk to those who’d last seen him alive.

      This “Eye”witness, all of a sudden, saw nothing cause ” I was only out there 8 seconds” which is actually time to see plenty if you count it off. Goode is a poor liar and what he saw and did flips back and forth even though his various versions are easily assessed.

      I might be inclined to give Good just a skosh of room on this, in that perhaps he ‘soft-peddled’ his account while talking to Tracy, not because he was ‘intimidated’ by him and his tattoos, but because he became aware that he was dealing with a real person.

      It’s one thing to talk in the abstract about about a dead stranger, and make them the villain of the piece. It’s another to be confronted with a grieving parent, and tell them that their dead child is ‘bad.’

      • 2dogsonly
        May 5, 2014 at 2:31 PM

        John Good could not tell Tracy whether his son was good or bad because John Good didn’t see anything. It was dark, rainy, no lights and he said he put one foot out. I live in the same type of cookie cutter home. O’Mara did a good job at skimming over how dark it was out back and the height of the bushes. The bushes just surround the AC unit…like 2-3 ‘ tall. John Good heard noise,stuck foot out saying stop and hot footed back inside.

        His first interview was bs. So, there was no your son was good or bad to tell Tracy and that is exactly what he said on his radio interview..”nothing to tell him cause I didn’t see anything.”

        I’m not sure why whether Tracy coming to speak with him one day or three days would matter? But John Good said 3 days on radio interview and that would make more sense as it takes time for a parent to realize police aren’t going to do their job.

        There radio hosts actually displayed very little interest toward John Good or writer…much more emotion in speaking of gay killings in Jamaica ( I think it was Jamaica). He and pamphlet writer had to sit there while they discussed a completely different topic.

        The end where the interviewer brought up SYG class and no can shoot someone if you’re the instigator was worth the tediousness of the previous 60 minutes. Liked that a lot.

        You do know that nettles blog is pure hate and almost total blind rage? Very very few, like 3 people follow her. Anything she says is not to be taken seriously. That David piercy guy is her last few readers ( the guy that posted sick stuff on Xena’s blog)

        • wordsalad2009
          May 5, 2014 at 5:07 PM

          2dogsonly,

          I’m not sure why whether Tracy coming to speak with him one day or three days would matter? But John Good said 3 days on radio interview and that would make more sense as it takes time for a parent to realize police aren’t going to do their job.

          The only way it matters to me is that various posters at Nettle’s annettekblog are saying Tracy Martin visited Johnathan Good on the morning of 20120227, before the journo did. Not all all sure where they’re getting that information if Good said in the radio interview that it was three days later.

          You do know that nettles blog is pure hate and almost total blind rage? Very very few, like 3 people follow her. Anything she says is not to be taken
          seriously.

          Being that I cut my GZ/TM case teeth at wagist dot com, it’s fairly difficult to shock me. (Did you ever read the commentary there? Talk about your unmitigated hate.)

          Please don’t think that I agree with GZ supporters overall. I read pro-GZ blogs, because as unitron once said, “Information is where you find it.” (He was actually referring at the time in an apologetic way to something I’d posted here).

          That David piercy guy is her last few readers ( the guy that posted sick stuff on Xena’s blog)

          He’s a piece of work, isn’t he? It looks like he has a trail of court cases going back at least as far as 1999.

          I dunno what his damage is…

  100. wordsalad2009
    May 5, 2014 at 1:05 PM

    Kudos to Xena for continuing to speak out on the Trayvon Martin homicide and issues related to it:

    blackbutterfly7 at wordpress 20140504

    I’m sorry to read the concrete samples of nasty, ad hominem remarks she’s received, as well as learn that she’s been subjected to blustery threats of legal action from various GZ ‘supporters.’

    I hope she keeps in mind that they probably do it because they find what she has to say about the case ‘threatening’ (read: difficult to contest).

    • 2dogsonly
      May 5, 2014 at 2:56 PM

      Get thee to xena’s blog. Big announcement.

      • wordsalad2009
        May 5, 2014 at 3:54 PM

        Ooo, thanks for the tip, 2dogsonly (and shannoninmiami)!:

        Frank Taaffe’s Facebook 20140505

        Frank Taaffe
        6 hrs ·

        Today I’m meeting with the Orlando Sentinel to disclose the information that’s just how I knew what the Zimmerman verdict was and what was going on in the jury room prior to the announcement of the verdict this should launch full-scale probe by the FBI

        It’s probably just Uncle Frank trying to blow some more air into his fifteen minutes of fame, but we’ll see what he tells the OS.

        • wordsalad2009
          May 5, 2014 at 4:06 PM

          FYI, if you mouse over the “6 hrs” link at FT’s facebook entry, it returns the info “Monday, May 05, 2014 at 6:41am”

        • wordsalad2009
          May 5, 2014 at 5:12 PM

          Oops, dunno how I messed up the link on Uncle Frank’s Facebook entry earlier, but I did:

  101. wordsalad2009
    May 5, 2014 at 5:14 PM

    Hmmm, wordpress is either hating Facebook, Frank, or me:

    Frank Taaffe’s Faceboodk Entry 20140505

  102. wordsalad2009
    May 5, 2014 at 5:16 PM

    Me. I apparently am HTML-challenged today (which doesn’t really differentiate today from any other day).

    • 2dogsonly
      May 5, 2014 at 6:23 PM

      It’s good now. Please let him blow this wide open. There was corruption by state. They didn’t want to win this winnable case.

      • wordsalad2009
        May 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM

        2dogsonly,

        It’d be rather ironic if Uncle Frank was instrumental in blowing the case wide open, don’t you think? We’ll see.

  103. 2dogsonly
    May 5, 2014 at 7:02 PM

    Mark Osterman was there per tub’s own words. He was federal officer. Tubs was on phone calling someone but O’Mara refused to release his calls saying :they would be too explosive. And no one really objected to this bizarre decision. I thought when it came out Shellie wasn’t with him that night that was what he meant….would prove he wasn’t going to grocery shopping for his Ozzie & Harriet perfect family. Now, I believe It was more than he lied about perfect family life. That bank photo that was never identified but looked exactly like MO.

    If Taffe does go to OS, it may have a tie in to tubs lawsuit and feeling I’ve had enough of this pos. He may be sufficiently fed up to expose what he knows ( or thinks he knows).

    • wordsalad2009
      May 5, 2014 at 7:44 PM

      2dogsonly,

      Mark Osterman was there per tub’s own words. He was federal officer.

      When do you mean? MO was there on the 26th with SZ, and on the 27th, along with other occasions. I tend to think that the real reason GZ moved to MO’s home almost immediately after the homicide was not out of fear of attacks, but rather to strategize with his ‘mentor.’ Can’t you just imagine those conversations?

      Tubs was on phone calling someone but O’Mara refused to release his calls saying :they would be too explosive.

      We do have the record of telephone numbers for incoming and outgoing and calls, and about the only thing in that time frame (when Manalo took the picture of GZ’s noggin) was a second, one-minute call to the Sanford PD’s non-emergency number (Page 8):

      flcourts blah blah blah June 27 Exhibits and Identification List

      And no one really objected to this bizarre decision. I thought when it came out Shellie wasn’t with him that night that was what he meant….would prove he wasn’t going to grocery shopping for his Ozzie & Harriet perfect family. Now, I believe It was more than he lied about perfect family life.

      Even SZ after she initiated divorce proceedings said that there had been “so many lies” told, but you’re right, I don’t think it’s just about the happy couple.

      That bank photo that was never identified but looked exactly like MO.

      That one is still a question mark in my mind (no bad pun intended).

      If Taffe does go to OS, it may have a tie in to tubs lawsuit and feeling I’ve had enough of this pos. He may be sufficiently fed up to expose what he knows ( or thinks he knows).

      It’d be tempting to say, “Kill them all, and let God sort it out,” but I’m not a believer, so I have to moderate my attitude, keep the fires burning, and hope.

  104. wordsalad2009
    May 6, 2014 at 12:39 PM

    Well, no new articles from the Orlando Sentinel or updates from Frank Taaffe about GZ insofar as I can see.

    Either the OS is having to do some research on things FT told them, or Uncle Frank is just blowing smoke.

  105. wordsalad2009
    May 6, 2014 at 9:42 PM

    To Xena et al at the blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog:

    If you look at the Fresno County’s website (you have to use the Microsoft Explorer browser to do so), it appears that DP was successful in getting a TRO against SR on 20140505 (I bet they just love DP in Fresno).

    For any action on SR’s side, I believe you may have to look at Los Angeles County’s website, and they charge.

    These twitter wars are unbelievably childish. It’d be one thing if people were physically following other people around in the real world, or gaining illegal/uninvited access to others’ private resources, but puerile, 140-character insults? Walk.It.Off.

  106. wordsalad2009
    May 7, 2014 at 9:34 AM

    Food for thought (boldface font my edit for emphasis):

    NewsWorks dot org 20140506

    “The intensity and complexity of life, attendant upon advancing civilization, have rendered necessary some retreat from the world … so that solitude and privacy have become more essential to the individual,” Louis Brandeis wrote, back in 1890. “But modern enterprise and invention have, through invasion upon his privacy, subjected him to mental pain and distress, far greater than could be inflicted by mere bodily injury.”

  107. wordsalad2009
    May 7, 2014 at 4:43 PM

    Another bad decision from the Supremes:

    WaPo 20140505

    Why can’t people who want to pray do it on their own time?

  108. wordsalad2009
    May 8, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    There was an ‘interesting’ tweet from GZ’s alleged inamorata SS yesterday:

    Samantha Scheibe at twitter 20140507

    Samantha Scheibe ‏@samantha_khope

    I always win 😘

    …1:46 PM – 7 May 2014

    What constitutes winning to her, I wonder?

    Insofar as I can tell, she’s 28 years old now, has an 11 year old child (do the math), possibly has more children on the way, and a volatile relationship with a killer.

    I wonder what does she does for money these days.

  109. wordsalad2009
    May 9, 2014 at 1:18 AM

    Some gun trivia from Turner Classic Movies host Ben Mankiewicz, related to the filming of “Night of the Iguana” (1964):

    Richard Burton had been in the headlines because of his relationship with Elizabeth Taylor, which had caused the break-up of both their marriages (Burton’s to wife Sybil, and Taylor’s to husband Eddie Fisher–and the latter marriage had its genesis in infidelity that broke up Fisher’s marriage to Debbie Reynolds).

    Taylor, who did not have a part in the movie, accompanied lover Burton to filming location Puerto Vallarta, reportedly to keep an eye on him because of his “alluring costars” (Sue Lyons, Deborah Kerr, and Ava Gardner).

    For “protection,” Director John Huston gave each of the leading performers their own gun.

    As Mankiewicz said, “Cause what could go wrong there?>/i>”

  110. wordsalad2009
    May 9, 2014 at 10:26 AM

    Oh, ‘nice.’ Per a link at Xena at her blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog, Idaho is considering making it legal to pack heat on state college and university campuses. Professor Greg Hampikian writes a satirical essay on the subject:

    blackbutterfly7 at wordpress 20140509

    A cynic might say that this is a solution to overpopulation.

    A millennialist might say that this is another sign of ‘the end times’ (and feel smug, convinced that they’ll be watching it all while sitting at the right hand of god in a climate-controlled sky box).

    Myself, I’m inclined to ask if this is a sign of the decline and fall of the American Empire.

    • wordsalad2009
      May 9, 2014 at 12:59 PM

      A millennialist might say that this is another sign of ‘the end times’ (and feel smug, convinced that they’ll be watching it all while sitting at the right hand of god in a climate-controlled sky box).

      Lest anybody think that I hate all religious people: I don’t.

      There are plenty of religious people who comport themselves in an entirely admirable fashion: with dignity, humility, and charity for all.

      The ones that make my jaw tight are (1) the ones that keep trying to insert religion into U.S. government (3) the ones that ‘enjoy’ stuff like “Left Behind.”

  111. 2dogsonly
    May 9, 2014 at 10:44 AM

    Apparently Texas now allows open carry everywhere which makes men with guns on street corners look so welcoming. Young men with bazookas slung over their shoulders makes us all feel so much safer. Or not.

    • wordsalad2009
      May 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM

      2dogsonly,

      A return to the ‘good old days’ of the Old American West?

      The reality is that the ‘good old days’ of the Old West really only exists in Hollywood.

      Meanwhile, back at the ranch:

      Gun Laws in Texas, wikipedia

      • 2dogsonly
        May 9, 2014 at 4:03 PM

        Just posted on Xena. Frances Robbie reporting Taffe is spilling beans.

  112. wordsalad2009
    May 9, 2014 at 12:42 PM

    A-a-and, in twitter world:

    Nettles 18 at twitter dot com 20140509

    Annette ‏@Nettles18

    Let me remind you of the cruel words Kotex posted when Joe P. died. No GZ supporter would post such a thing.

    …8:49 AM – 9 May 2014

    GZ supporters occupying the moral high ground? Honey, please.

    A 140-character platform like Twitter seems to be ‘ideally’ suited to knee-jerk reactions, and there has been plenty of nastiness all the way round.

    • 2dogsonly
      May 9, 2014 at 2:08 PM

      That falls under what my mom would say when questioned but but but mom you….
      ” do as I say and not as I do” 🙂

      • wordsalad2009
        May 9, 2014 at 2:47 PM

        2dogsonly,

        Yup, and sometimes it’s appropriate for parents of very young children to employ that philosophy (do as I say, not as I do), but others?

        Even if the positions of my parents were open (they’re not) I’m way over the age of consent.

      • wordsalad2009
        May 9, 2014 at 10:22 PM

        Ooo, thanks, 2dogsonly!

  113. 2dogsonly
    • wordsalad2009
      May 9, 2014 at 2:59 PM

      2dogsonly,

      Thanks. Yeah, I think they’re following in the footsteps of Charlie “Bird” Parker. I’ve played for animals myself (radio/CD’s), and they do seem to enjoy it.

      If you sing to a parrot, you can almost see the little thought bubble: “Finally! One of these big, flightless bipeds is making something close to an intelligent sound. Can’t understand a thing they’re saying, but they’re trying, bless their heart.”

      Well, I gotta get my big, flightless, bipedal behind in gear now, as the demands of RL are calling. Enjoy!

  114. wordsalad2009
    May 9, 2014 at 10:27 PM

    Hat tip to 2dogs only at the blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog for alerting me to these tweets from journo Frances Robles:

    Frances Robles at twitter 20140509 11:54 AM

    Frances Robles @FrancesRobles

    George Zimmerman pal Frank Taaffe now says GZ racially profiled #TrayvonMartin and was guilty of manslaughter. “Justice was not served.”

    …11:54 AM – 9 May 2014

    Oh, d’ya think?

    Frances Robles 20140509 12:43 PM

    Frances Robles ‏@FrancesRobles

    .@NavyDad0007 @espy25 I was not planning on writing it up. I will just do some tweets about my conversation w/ him

    …12:43 PM – 9 May 2014

    Why isn’t Robles writing it up as a full article? Maybe she thinks Taaffe is a blowhard, and not worth it?

    Well, I’ll be waiting to read those further tweets, and I hope the feds put Uncle Frank through a ringer (if they haven’t already, that is).

  115. wordsalad2009
    May 9, 2014 at 10:51 PM

    Robles says Taaffe told her that GZ’s trial should have been a mistrial because “an officer of the court” leaked jury deliberation information to him:

    Hey, throw that on the giant pile of “sh*t that’s wrong with the case.”

    One of Robles’ fellow twitterers (twits, twitees?) speculated that Uncle Frank might be going through rehab. Robles thought that idea had merit, and so do I.

    Gad, twitter is an exasperating medium. I am not going to link all of those one-liners. Y’all go read Robles’ twitter feed:

    https://twitter.com/FrancesRobles

  116. wordsalad2009
    May 9, 2014 at 10:54 PM

    Oops, didn’t mean to embed tweets. Sorree, Perfesser whonoze, I know stuff like that tends to bog down the blog.

    Oh well, must be bedtime for me.

  117. 2dogsonly
    • wordsalad2009
      May 10, 2014 at 9:46 AM

      Thanks, 2dogsonly!

      He was once one of George Zimmerman’s most outspoken advocates, but now former neighborhood watch volunteer, Frank Taaffe says his opinion about Zimmerman’s not guilty verdict has changed.

      “What I know of George and his tendencies and also my opinion is that he racially profiled Trayvon Martin that night because if that had been a white kid on a cell phone, walking through our neighborhood, he wouldn’t have stayed on him the way he did and that’s a fact and I believe that in my heart,” said Taaffe.

      This is very different from what Taaffe told News 13 numerous times after the shooting, including during an interview back in May 2012 when he said, “That George Zimmerman in a position in a volunteer role wanted to ensure the safety of the community he lived in and he became the victim.”

      Oh, no kidding, huh?

      But today, Taaffe claims he just wants to clear his conscience, “I can only ask for the country to forgive me and today I believe that he racially profiled him based on the color of his skin.

      There is still an unaccounted-for four minute period that fateful evening, but we apparently still live in a world where a black seventeen year old’s judgment can be found wanting, but his pale-by-comparison, twenty-eight year old stalker-killer’s judgment is just ‘fine.’

      Reporter: Some people may wonder what does Frank Taaffe have to gain by doing this? Are you working on a book? No book. A TV show? No. I’m just working on me right now and getting right with God.”

      Taaffe’s got his work cut out for him.

      Taaffe says his brother’s death last month and the death of his two sons over the past two years has changed him.

      He’s probably feeling his own mortality now that his sibling is dead; nothing will do that like your own generation dying.

      If Taaffe truly believes in a ‘judgment day,’ it’s probably starting to look uncomfortably close. The Pearly Gates might instead be “Jaws.”

      Taaffe says he has a message for Trayvon Martin’s parents, “I’m sorry that you lost your son, I know what that’s like and I wish things had been different.”

      Twelve Steps, wikipedia

      8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.

      I hope Taaffe is truly on a good path now.

      Both George Zimmerman and his brother Robert declined to comment.

      Well, what can they say?

      George Zimmerman was found not guilty of second degree murder last July. The Department of Justice has an open investigation into the death of Trayvon Martin, to see if any of his civil rights were violated.

      Hmmm, let’s see: profiled, stalked and killed…

  118. wordsalad2009
    May 10, 2014 at 10:24 AM

    Actually Junior did have something to say:

    Junior at twitter 20140509

    Robert Zimmerman JR ‏@rzimmermanjr

    @FrancesRobles = not a “journalist”. That is all.

    …12:56 PM – 9 May 2014

    Hmmm, let’s see:

    John S. Knight Journalism Fellowships at Stanford

    Frances Robles (’05)

    Bogotá bureau chief, Miami Herald

    Robles was born in Brooklyn, New York and attended New York University, where she earned a bachelor’s degree in journalism. She began her journalism career in 1990 as a reporter at The (Cleveland) Plain Dealer, moving to the Miami Herald in 1993. She covered higher education, police and courts before being named the Herald’s bureau chief in Managua, Nicaragua in 2001. She has been the Bogotá, Colombia bureau chief for two years. She has been a board member of the National Association of Hispanic Journalists, and was on two teams at the Herald that won Pulitzer prizes; her work earned her recognition as a finalist for a 1999 Pulitzer Prize in the breaking news category.

    Daily Caller Biography of RZJR

    Robert Zimmerman Jr. is the oldest son of Robert and Gladys Zimmerman. Robert worked as a musician in Virginia before relocating to Florida, where he has taken on the role of spokesman for his family…

  119. 2dogsonly
    May 10, 2014 at 10:28 AM

    Didn’t use Rene either. Sweet!

    • wordsalad2009
      May 10, 2014 at 11:31 AM

      2odgsonly,

      Didn’t use Rene either. Sweet!

      I perceive a certain ambivalence in Stutzman with regard to GZ. Her stance on GZ has seemed to wobble over time.

      Eh, maybe it’s her, maybe it’s her editor.

      Anyway, I’ll be waiting to see what, if anything, she has to say about Uncle Frank’s ‘epiphany.’

  120. wordsalad2009
    May 10, 2014 at 4:15 PM

    D’oh! I just realized something. In Taaffe’s Facebook posting, he said this:

    Frank Taaffe at Facebook 20140505 06:41 AM

    Today I’m meeting with the Orlando Sentinel…

    What we’ve seen so far are tweets from Frances Robles (of the New York Times), and John W. Davis of News 13. From the Orlando Sentinel so far? Bupkes.

    Either the OS is still working on a story, or they were not ‘impressed.’

  121. May 10, 2014 at 8:07 PM

    I see this twisted world just got one more twist…
    FT now believes GZ profiled TM. He also admits there was a leak at trial.

    Hi all. Although it feels nice to read you folks again, I have to say that a sabbatical from all this crazy story was more than needed. How you guys are doing?

    • 2dogsonly
      May 10, 2014 at 9:40 PM

      Tchoupicaillou!!!! I have quoted you and thought about you and all your effort you, Whonoze Amsterdam, bcc.list, princss 6 and many others for the past week. It is going to be so important. It was not wasted!!
      You combined intelligence with a pure heart. So proud of knowing each of you.
      I can’t begin to express how grateful I feel!

      Have you touched base with bcc.list yet?

      • May 11, 2014 at 1:08 PM

        That’s too much effusion 2dogsonly!
        Keep in mind that I was too stupid to realize that the CCTV was in fact insignificant to the case.
        I mean, although I have no doubt that we nailed the timing with an amazingly small margin of error and therefore we showed GZ’s story of how it all started was a fantasy, the case was all about emotions and perceptions to the jurors.

        No I have not been in touch with bcclist yet. Neither I have read from Amsterdam or Princess 6.

        • 2dogsonly
          May 11, 2014 at 2:03 PM

          Tchoupicaillou says he was too stupid to realize case was all about emotion:
          2dogs says: of course it was emotion and not about CSI scientific events like oh, I don’t know….DNA, Video, climate, walking speed,wind, ear witness, bullet trajectory, photoshopping, killer’s actual presto chango three versions, money laundering,and plain common sense.

          It was only about AA kid scaring a white saint just trying to keep his neighborhood safe.
          Even if he has to shoot every AA walking (and then running) at 7pm on a Sunday night.

          Cause that’s how we Americans roll.;-)

          Tch., if you tweet he’s at crick@bcc.list and I think his blog is still up just on various subjects.

        • wordsalad2009
          May 12, 2014 at 11:50 AM

          tchoupi,

          Keep in mind that I was too stupid to realize that the CCTV was in fact insignificant to the case.
          I mean, although I have no doubt that we nailed the timing with an amazingly small margin of error and therefore we showed GZ’s story of how it all started was a fantasy, the case was all about emotions and perceptions to the jurors.

          It is disheartening that the prosecution did nothing with the CCTV videos, and just more evidence that they didn’t want to win their case.

          Your Herculean work in analyzing the CCTV videos revealed more of GZ’s lies, and that he was hunting TM before he ever left his truck.

          He may not have premeditated killing TM, but I think GZ was ‘suffering’ from a narcissistic injury that evening (via his estranged wife, and the general poor condition of his life), and profiled TM for a ‘collar,’ not because TM was actually doing anything ‘suspicious,’ but because TM was young, male–and black.

          GZ knew that a story about TM being “up to no good” would sell.

          As Perfesser whonoze (via Hannah Arendt) would have it, the banality of evil.

        • 2dogsonly
          May 15, 2014 at 4:02 PM
    • wordsalad2009
      May 11, 2014 at 10:08 AM

      tchoupi,

      Nice to hear from you! I don’t doubt a sabbatical was in order. I hope you and your family are well on this Mother’s Day.

      Yeah, Uncle Frank has changed his tune. Not sure how many media outlets he’s actually talked to, but I do see one new article out there this morning (boldface font my edit for emphasis):

      Raw Story 20140510

      A former friend and neighbor of George Zimmerman, who had previously defended the man accused of stalking and killing 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, has had a change of heart, stating that he believes that Zimmerman got away with murder.

      Hmmm. Raw Story quoted News 13 in their piece, so I don’t think they actually talked to FT.

      Robles actually talked to him, and she said “manslaughter.”

  122. wordsalad2009
    May 11, 2014 at 10:14 AM

    Dang, it’s pretty early for me to be so HTML-challenged:

    Raw Story 20140510

  123. wordsalad2009
    May 11, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    Wow, good catch by “taylor4242” over at the blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog:

    blackbutterfly7 at wordpress

    They noticed that recent deaths in the family aren’t the only things FT is going through these days. It seems that the bank foreclosed on his town home recently (final judgment of over a third of a million bucks in March 2014):

    Seminole County Clerk of Courts

    I’m not doing a dance of glee here; I’m just trying to understand.

    I guess I always knew on a certain level that filthy lucre was the driving force behind all of his posturing on talking-head TV.

    What is FT doing for income these days, one wonders?

    • May 11, 2014 at 1:17 PM

      I don’t believe a word he says to explain his “change of heart”. Money may be one component indeed. I’m was personally inclined to believe that the real reason for the change is resentment towards GZ and/or the RW media who finally dumped him as used socks.
      Honestly, unless he really has information that he can back up with evidence, I won’t care about what he says.
      So, how our buddy GZ has been doing in the past 6 months?

      • wordsalad2009
        May 12, 2014 at 1:34 PM

        tchoupi,

        I’m was personally inclined to believe that the real reason for the change is resentment towards GZ and/or the RW media who finally dumped him as used socks.

        You could definitely be onto something there. Over at the blackbutterfly7 blog, they’re speculating that FT has been burning with humiliation (and simmering resentment) ever since he was confronted on TV with his own irrefutable, racist behaviors.

        Once right-wing talking heads were faced with that, they indeed dropped FT like HazMat.

        Taaffe’s probably now trying to say, “Hey, you think you can just ‘dismiss’ me?! Check this out!”

        He could be out for blood, and he doesn’t much care whose it is, so long as it isn’t his own.

        But as others have already observed, trying to redirect public anger towards GZ because of racism doesn’t really work on those with memories longer than a few days.

        Uncle Frank has yet to apologize for his own blatantly racist remarks.

  124. 2dogsonly
    May 11, 2014 at 2:08 PM

    The past 10 months:
    3 traffic stops
    2 DV incidents
    1 copyright infringement
    1 pending divorce
    1 girlfriend ..preggers
    1 lawsuit re activated against NBC
    Parents suing somebody for something…oh Rosanne Barr

    And a partridge in a pear tree.;-)

    • wordsalad2009
      May 11, 2014 at 4:10 PM

      And a partridge in a pear tree.;-)

      Heh!

  125. May 11, 2014 at 2:33 PM

    I had a couple of of questions for you folks:

    How bad is it that an Officer of the Court leaks information concerning a Jury in deliberation?

    What Officer of the Court as access to information from inside the deliberation room?

    • wordsalad2009
      May 11, 2014 at 4:33 PM

      tchoupi,

      How bad is it that an Officer of the Court leaks information concerning a Jury in deliberation?

      To a layperson like me, it seems ethically reprehensible, but are there any potential legal repercussions? Dunno. This might shed some light:

      Florida Bar dot org, Reporter’s Handbook

      If information is leaked to the press, the prosecutor or the court might seek to punish the source by contempt.

      Of course, that was with reference to a grand jury, and the press (Uncle Frank might be a talking head these days, but he sure isn’t a journalist).

      Officer of the Court per wikipedia

      In the United States, the generic term officer of the court (not to be confused with court officers) is applied to all those who, in some degree in function of their professional or similar qualifications, have a legal part—and hence legal and deontological obligations—in the complex functioning of the judicial system as a whole, in order to forge justice out of the application of the law and the simultaneous pursuit of the legitimate interests of all parties and the general good of society.

      Dang, I hadda look up that “deontological” bit; I thought maybe it had something to do with teeth or trees. };-)

      What Officer of the Court as access to information from inside the deliberation room?

      Bailiffs?:

      Baliffs, per wikipedia

      Jury bailiffs are court ushers who monitor juries during their deliberations and during overnight stays

      Ultimately, I still dunno. Sigh. Is there a jurist in the house?

  126. wordsalad2009
    May 11, 2014 at 4:58 PM

    Hmmm, News 13 actually had some video of FT talking about this (YouTube courtesy of SanfordWatch):

    SanfordWatch at YouTube 20140510

  127. wordsalad2009
    May 12, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    Hat tip to “dreamer” at the blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog for the link to this information.

    Apparently Frank Taaffe told Daily Kenn dot com that an attorney with ties to the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office told him (Taaffe) at 4 PM what the verdict would be in the George Zimmerman murder/manslaughter trial, more than six hours before the verdict was officially announced:

    Daily Kenn 201405??

    I hope the FBI is indeed interested.

    • wordsalad2009
      May 12, 2014 at 11:31 AM

      Total speculation here, but if it’s true that an attorney tipped off Frank Taaffe about the verdict, and that attorney turns out to be Juror B37’s husband, all of them have a lot of ‘splainin’ to do to the FBI.

      Of course, the attorney could be Mark O’Mara, Don West, or somebody else in their office. The same thing applies, though (about the ‘splainin’).

      Can you say “perversion of justice?” I knew you could.

      • May 12, 2014 at 7:43 PM

        I may be naive but I don’t see how MoM & DW would have known what was going on in the deliberation room. Even if I were totally wrong, I don’t see MoM and his team risking their carrier just to contact some guy (FT aka GZ’s BFF) they did not even consider to defend their client.

        FT clearly knew things happening in the deliberation room while it was going on. I can’t remember the details, but I recall that it was quite astonishing.

        If FT has evidence of a communication with someone inside the deliberation room, then we may have something interesting. But then, why would he risk legal troubles while he could just keep quiet?

        • wordsalad2009
          May 12, 2014 at 9:22 PM

          tchoupi,

          I may be naive but I don’t see how MoM & DW would have known what was going on in the deliberation room. Even if I were totally wrong, I don’t see MoM and his team risking their carrier just to contact some guy (FT aka GZ’s BFF) they did not even consider to defend their client.

          It sure doesn’t seem like a good idea to me, but for what it’s worth, somebody at the blackbutterfly7 blog said that there are pictures of O’Mara and West with Taffee on FT’s facebook (I haven’t seen them myself), and they were all dressed casually.

          Why ever would they have been hanging out with FT?

          Then again, maybe in a hot, humid climate like Florida, people tend to save the suits for the courtroom, and dress more casually for work-related meetings outside of that venue.

          FT clearly knew things happening in the deliberation room while it was going on. I can’t remember the details, but I recall that it was quite astonishing.

          Yeah, I think we all had our jaws hanging. I suspect FT liked that, and he may be going for something similar here.

          If FT has evidence of a communication with someone inside the deliberation room, then we may have something interesting. But then, why would he risk legal troubles while he could just keep quiet?

          Dunno. Maybe it’s because FT himself wouldn’t necessarily be in trouble, but his informer would.

          Then again, I get the impression that a finding of “contempt of court” is discretionary. So nothing may ever happen to anybody connected with a leak. ‘Nice,’ huh?:

          Contempt of Court, per wikipedia

          If the ‘leaker’ was the attorney-spouse of juror B37, that would seem to me like a situation screaming for investigation.

          However, I don’t think that he’d necessarily be considered an “Officer of the Court” simply by virtue of being an attorney, and if he were somehow connected to the case, I would think that would have ruled out wifey as a juror.

          BTW, I also read somewhere that, with regard to jury nullification, everybody in the legal system knows it happens, and typically they are loath to interfere.

          However, in a case where somebody’s been killed, and there’s any question about civil rights violations, I would think they’d need to care. Well, the DOJ, anyway.

          Eh, what I know about jurisprudence would fit on the head of a pin.

          And old FT could be telling the truth at this point (at least partial truth), or totally blowing smoke.

          I give up. For tonight, that is.

    • May 12, 2014 at 8:02 PM

      One note though, I have no idea how reliable a source is the Daily Kenn. They claim having talked to FT and they also claim FT told them the FBI is looking in that leak story.

      Is the last point confirmed by other sources? I found none.
      Is there a recording of that conversation between teh Daily Kenn and FT? I found none.

      • wordsalad2009
        May 12, 2014 at 8:27 PM

        tchoupi,

        No idea as to the reliability of Daily Kenn, but it’s probably worth noting that they characterized FT as a “close personal friend” of GZ, and I think we know that isn’t true.

        Nope on the independent corroboration, and on the recording as well.

        Although, on FT’s 20140505 facebook posting, some of his supporters were encouraging him to record himself so that he couldn’t be maliciously edited by the ‘evil’ press.

        That’s actually not bad advice, but with friends like himself, Uncle Frank doesn’t really any enemies does he?

  128. wordsalad2009
    May 12, 2014 at 9:30 PM

    Oops, one more, and then I truly quit for the night. Hat tip to “Soulcatcher” at the Frederick Leatherman wordpress blog for the link to the obituary of FT’s brother:

    Malcom Gene Taaffe at Legacy dot com

  129. wordsalad2009
    May 13, 2014 at 1:20 PM

    Well, still no new Taaffe story at the Orlando Sentinel.

    There are more press pieces out there, but so far they all seem to be (semi)quoting the News 13 story.

    Something that’s been mentioned both in the press and in the blogosphere is that Taaffe was also allegedly a member of Neighborhood Watch.

    What doesn’t seem to get much mention or scrutiny from the press (nor from the state of Florida prosecutors, for that matter) is that the Retreat at Twin Lakes apparently had had a Neighborhood Watch group before GZ became the coordinator in September 2011. When GZ assumed the mantle, it was really a Neighborhood Watch revival.

    What’s the history of that original NW group, one wonders?

  130. wordsalad2009
    May 13, 2014 at 11:51 PM

    Kudos to Xena for standing up to David Piercy.

    I don’t know what his damage is that he keeps posting vulgar insults and threats on her blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog, but his persistence in circumventing administrative controls to do so repeatedly is definitely harassment.

    “Cease and desist” means something in the legal world, as he knows full well.

    He should stick to twitter where apparently there are people who want to play his games.

    • wordsalad2009
      May 14, 2014 at 9:01 AM

      Eh, on second thought, Xena, it might be better to try to ignore DP, unless his behavior crosses over into concrete, real-life threats. His cyber-nastiness to you may be just a roundabout way of trying to dox you. The guy is not well.

  131. wordsalad2009
    May 14, 2014 at 7:43 PM

    Just took at look at the ‘timeline’ of Frank Taaffe’s facebook postings:

    The “Real’ Frank Taaffe at Facebook

    It was a month to the day after his brother Malcolm’s death that he announced he would be meeting with the Orlando Sentinel to ‘expose’ how it was he seemed to know the jury’s verdict before it was announced:

    Malcolm Gene Taaffe Obituary at Legacy dot com

    Frank Taaffe’s OS Announcement

    However, on April 29, he announced that he would be appearing on Dr. Drew’s show to talk about Clippers owner Don Sterling (and he did). Here’s a transcript:

    CNN Transcript 20140429

    Did Frank Taaffe somehow have some kind of amazing epiphany between April 29 and May 5?

    Hmmm…

  132. May 14, 2014 at 8:01 PM

    Hi bloggers!

    I’m not dead. Just busy with other stuff. Will try to catch up later at some point.

    Hugs and kisses,

    w.

    • wordsalad2009
      May 14, 2014 at 9:33 PM

      Hey, Perfesser whonoze!

      Glad to hear you’re alive and well (and thanks for rescuing my hung-up-in-moderation post).

    • May 15, 2014 at 11:10 AM

      Hi Whonoze. I came back juts a few days ago after I saw the news about FT’s [fake] enlightenment.
      How things are going with you?

    • 2dogsonly
      May 15, 2014 at 4:21 PM

      Whonoze says :”Hugs and Kisses
      2dogs says: who are you and what have you done with Whomoze?” 😉

  133. wordsalad2009
    May 15, 2014 at 9:03 AM

    There’s a report that GZ recently texted promoter Alkiviades David, insinuating that he had “acted” during his murder/homicide trial (boldface font my edit for emphasis):

    TV Mix 20140515

    The shocking thing is a text exchange between David and Zimmerman setting up the fight. David asks, “Can you act?” Zimmerman responds with, “Did you watch my trial?”

    Well, on the one hand, David obviously would be in a position to know what text messages he’s received, but on the other, he’s a ‘bad-boy’ billionaire promoter who owns, among other things, TX Mix.

    If David’s got some illuminating information about the homicide of Trayvon Martin, he should talk to the feds.

  134. wordsalad2009
    May 15, 2014 at 5:07 PM

    2dogsonly,

    2dogsonly
    May 15, 2014 at 4:02 PM

    Here is another article.
    http://www.tvmix.com/george-zimmerman-film-on-fight-club-alki-david/123

    Thanks, I saw that this morning, but only quoted the bit about GZ’s alleged text message to promoter David.

    What I didn’t comment on (and probably should have) was that GZ’s also allegedly involved in another prospective fight-for-pay, but walked out when it started sounding a little too real for him.

    Of course, why does that whole “Fight Club” promotion smack of professional wrestling promotion? That is, scripted theatrics. I wonder if GZ got paid in the form of a trip to LA, hotel, food, rental car, and a drama-queen walk-out.

    Hmmm, and I just noticed that the TV Mix URL doesn’t work any more. };-)

    Anyway, when I put that together with SS’s tweeted picture of their (alleged) feet at the beach yesterday:

    samantha_khope at twitter 20140514

    I get this:

    Orlando Sentinel 20120717

    You’re probably never going to be employable for the rest of your life.

    That was O’Mara to GZ in July 2012. Eerily prescient for a divorce lawyer, wasn’t it?

    I can’t feel sorry for GZ, because nobody forced him to go around packing heat. For somebody who appears to have a problem with impulse-control, that’s just a recipe for disaster.

  135. wordsalad2009
    May 15, 2014 at 5:17 PM

    For those who didn’t get a chance to read the article at TV Mix before it mysteriously disappeared, here are a couple of quotes therefrom:

    On May 14, Zimmerman flew to Los Angeles, accepted a rental car provided by FilmOn and drove to the undisclosed location to participate in the Fight Club. He thought he would pretend to get in the ring but that a body double would actually face the mixed martial arts star Rampage Jackson, a former light heavyweight champion of the UFC. Zimmerman he thought he would take home $200,000 for his work.

    Zimmerman believed the fight was a fake and that a body double would actually face. Jackson let on that there was no body double and was giving Zimmerman a demonstration of how he would punch him. Zimmerman got spooked–despite earlier boasts that he would “Fight anyone, anywhere.”

    Zimmerman then turned tail—he got in his rental car and drove due East, headed for Florida, effectively stealing the car from Budget Rental Car.

    This part I remember from the accompanying video:

    David was caught on video clutching bundles of cash and telling Jackson, “”I told you to not fucking spook him… to make him believe that it was going to be fake…”

    That’s what I meant about it reminding me of a professional wrestling promotion.

  136. wordsalad2009
    May 15, 2014 at 5:39 PM

    I wonder if GZ got paid in the form of a trip to LA, hotel, food, rental car, and a drama-queen walk-out.

    What I meant was: an all-expense-paid trip to LA, plus a modest fee for the ‘acting’ job of pretending to agree to a fight, then changing his mind.

    So, I guess in that sense, GZ could be said to be ’employable,’ but how pathetic is that?

    Then Alkiviades David pulls the TV Mix article, maybe because of the allegation about the text message, or the stolen rental car, or who knows what?

    But once you put something out there on the Internet, it’s pretty much out there in perpetuity, isn’t it, Alki?

    Eh, what does AD care, he’s a billionaire…

    • 2dogsonly
      May 15, 2014 at 8:13 PM

      I really can’t see how this fight club business owner would consider paying someone 200,000 but they’re not actually going to fight. Wrestling is known to be more play acting than serious physical hurting another but this fight club cage is a blood sport meant to be extreme not pretend. I imagine the tickets are very expensive and ticket holders would demand their money back if they paid to see a well known person fight but instead see a body double look alike.

      He is one of the most recognizable people so there’s not a body double look alike capable of fooling customers up close.

      After thinking about it, I think it was a show and tubs was paid some money but the Oh my god Wes let’s leave is too stupid even for him. Add honey pie tweeting a clearly Florida beach pix captioned just me and my darling in the sun. Looks like probably a picture from the Miami trip and probably her and Jr. while tubs was doing his interview. There are beach chairs and only one couple. It’s a drive on beach and pretty sure California doesn’t allow those. So, it’s awfully back ass wards for it not to be some cooked up media ploy between fight club owner, tubs, Wes, and toots.

      How fun those two rascals are.
      Kind of like the good ole days
      Remember when I called 911 on you and then you called 911 on me?
      Fun times!

      Where he screws himself is the text where promoter asks:” if he can act “and he responds with :” Didn’t you see my trial ?”
      That will hopefully come back to bite him in the butt.

      His continually taunting his supporters and all the LE who worked so hard to get him off and keep him out of jail will begin to anger them at some point and when LE comes for you, they pile it on.

      • wordsalad2009
        May 15, 2014 at 8:56 PM

        2dogsonly,

        I really can’t see how this fight club business owner would consider paying someone 200,000 but they’re not actually going to fight.

        Like I said, that clip with AD with fistfuls of money and getting all upset reminded me of a professional wrestling promotion.

        Have you never watched any of those? I remember one years ago that was supposed to be footage of a pro-wrestler’s home life (this was way before reality TV became a named phenomenon). The wrestler was yelling ‘abusively’ at his family, but one of the kids was too young to keep a straight face, and was grinning and snickering.

        <

        blockquote>He is one of the most recognizable people so there’s not a body double look alike capable of fooling customers up close.

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        blockquote>

        I agree, but maybe the whole thing was a fake, and GZ was never even there (see my post down towards the end of the thread). You don’t really get a good look at the guy who’s supposed to be GZ.

        After thinking about it, I think it was a show and tubs was paid some money but the Oh my god Wes let’s leave is too stupid even for him.

        It could have been a very sweet deal indeed if GZ didn’t even need to show up.

        Are you talking about Wesley R? I feel a little sorry for that guy. He actually seems like a decent person, and he deserves a better friend than GZ.

        Add honey pie tweeting a clearly Florida beach pix captioned just me and my darling in the sun. Looks like probably a picture from the Miami trip and probably her and Jr. while tubs was doing his interview. There are beach chairs and only one couple. It’s a drive on beach and pretty sure California doesn’t allow those.

        Thanks for lending support to my impression that the picture SS posted was probably not of a California beach (the sand was too white-looking to me).

        How fun those two rascals are.
        Kind of like the good ole days
        Remember when I called 911 on you and then you called 911 on me?
        Fun times!

        Yup, that could have all been for show, but towards what end?

        Just to keep GZ’s name in the headlines? You gotta have a pretty bad case of “look at me” to do that. Hmmm…

        Where he screws himself is the text where promoter asks:” if he can act “and he responds with :” Didn’t you see my trial ?”
        That will hopefully come back to bite him in the butt.

        There’s no guarantee that those texts were really exchanged between AD and GZ.

        His continually taunting his supporters and all the LE who worked so hard to get him off and keep him out of jail will begin to anger them at some point and when LE comes for you, they pile it on.

        I think we already saw a bit of that with the Lake Mary police. Their chief didn’t seem to be a fan.

  137. wordsalad2009
    May 15, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    Hat tip to “Rachael” at the blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog for this link to the video associated with the now-gone article at TV Mix about GZ:

    Battlecam dot com 20140514

    Y’know, now that I’ve watched it again, who’s to say that the guy who walked out is actually GZ, and not the double they allegedly were going to use for the fight. You don’t really get a good look at him.

    I still wonder how much, if any, Alkiviades David might have paid GZ, if only for the use of his ‘reputation.’

    Also, that beach picture SS posted had some mighty white-looking sand. I suppose it could have been just the camera exposure, but in my experience, California beaches typically don’t have very pale sand. Some Florida beaches do, though.

  138. wordsalad2009
    May 15, 2014 at 10:57 PM

    2dogsonly,

    After your remark about “Wes,” I felt compelled to watch that video again. I hadn’t even noticed the big guy before, probably because I was focused on the guy who is allegedly GZ.

    That does look like WR.

    Save yourself, Wes; he’ll only drag you down with him.

  139. wordsalad2009
    May 16, 2014 at 9:31 AM

    Nettles18 said on twitter that she’s seen a recent picture of GZ, and it leads her to believe that video of GZ is from February.

    Inquiring minds would want to know the provenance of the recent GZ picture she’s seen, but I’ll let that go for now, and note that Wesley R. looked quite large in the video. I believe he’s been in a training regimen of late that’s slimmed him somewhat, so that video could well be months old.

    Bad-boy billionaire promoter Alkiviades David could well have been trying to ‘play’ everybody.

    Faking text messages that could impact an ongoing federal investigation would be over the line, however, and maybe that’s why the TV Mix article has disappeared.

  140. 2dogsonly
    May 16, 2014 at 2:23 PM

    Nettles is reliable…oh ok.

    • wordsalad2009
      May 16, 2014 at 10:35 PM

      2dogsonly,

      Nettles is reliable…oh ok.

      Please understand. I don’t agree with Nettles on everything; indeed, overall we are diametrically opposed on this case. However, I don’t like to dismiss out of hand everything said by somebody on the other side of a complex issue, because it’s too easy to miss something that way.

      Nettles thinks GZ looks ‘different’ in the video from what he does these days.

      In truth, I don’t know what GZ looks like these days, because the most recent pictures I’ve seen of him were from the infamous gun show (March 8-9). That’s over two months, and while I doubt he’s lost or gained a dramatic amount of weight since then, his hair and beard could be quite different (we’ve seen him change those before).

      On top of that, the quality of the video is too poor to make me feel like I can even say, “Yes, that’s definitely GZ.

      If the source were a more ordinary “news” organization, I’d probably wouldn’t be questioning it so closely, but it’s an outfit that’s promoting a fight in a manner strongly reminiscent of professional wrestling promotion.

      From what little I’ve read about Alkiviades David, I get a sense of somebody with a very ‘playful’ personality, and he could very well be trying to play us all.

  141. wordsalad2009
    May 17, 2014 at 3:24 PM

    For those who might not believe that recently-released video of GZ from Alki David’s Battlecam could be misleading:

    Greek Reporter 20110730

    This recent article on Alkiviades David is interesting:

    The Telegraph 20140507

    BTW, David’s Facebook labeled “Armani” as a Pomeranian, and that was my initial impression when I first saw the dog’s picture.

    Oh, and this could be total coinkydink, but May 14, 2014 (when GZ allegedly got cold feet and walked out on the arranged fight) appears to be Alki David’s third wedding anniversary (photograph of wife’s commemorative tattoo):

    Tumblr

    Who’d spend their wedding anniversary trying to arrange a fight? Never mind, forget I asked…

    And I’m pretty sure I’ve linked this one before, but it’s worth a read:

    Hollywood Reporter 20121004

    The guy isn’t easy to pigeon-hole.

  142. wordsalad2009
    May 19, 2014 at 2:39 PM

    My empathy (and sympathy) to Xena and anybody else targeted by cyber-bullies:

    blackbutterfly7 at wordpress 20140518

    It’s almost like I can hear the gears turning in DP’s Rube Goldberg-esque brain:

    He lashes out at anyone not just you dear butterfly. He’s now filed a FOIR to FBI for wait for it….not you, not Sabrina or Tracy..But TUBS it is and requested assistance from other band members.
    Yes, it will be denied but I don’t want you to feel unfairly targeted. The much shorter list, I think, is those not in the lime of his sweet light.

    Yeah, I’m thinking that feds will say, “In your dreams, Bub.”

    Well, Real Life is ramping up for me personally, so if I seem to post less frequently in the near future, that’ll be why.

    Y’all take care.

  143. wordsalad2009
    May 21, 2014 at 2:32 PM

    Poor Xena:

    blackbutterfly7 at wordpress 20140520

    I didn’t realize that there is actually a sub-species of garter snake, the common name of which is the “Chicago Garter Snake”:

    wikipedia

    Garter snakes aren’t really ‘venomous,’ but they can and do bite if surprised, cornered, etc. Our family dog used to ‘take care’ of them for us. };-)

    I didn’t realize that there was any kind of snake ‘repellant’ on the market, but there is, apparently:

    Liquid Fence dot com

    Belated hat tip for the link to the story about DP and his medical/financial problems:

    Fresno Bee 20100131

    Of course, as ever, it only raises more questions for me. It makes me wonder whether DP’s epilepsy was triggered by some kind of brain injury that also caused personality changes.

    Am I speculating? Sure, but when I come across people like that, I tend to want to ‘understand’ what made them that way.

    How ironic that he should sue the government over benefits when he seems overall like a person who is ‘anti-government.’

    Truly, I don’t want to bad-mouth people who have a bona-fide medical problem, but DP appears to have a lot of problems, and some of them have negative impact on others.

  144. wordsalad2009
    May 22, 2014 at 2:20 PM

    TMZ has an update on GZ’s parents’ lawsuit against Roseanne Barr:

    TMZ 20140522

    The Zimmermans say they could have washed their clothes at home, but ended up spending $7,700 on cleaning their dirty duds and racking up other living expenses.

    But the Zimmermans want a lot more. In new legal docs — obtained by TMZ — they want: $6,900 in hotel costs, $22,800 rent and $600,000 for emotional distress.

    Roseanne filed her own docs … calling BS … because the parents sought out public exposure by self-publishing a book about the murder trial.

    Plus … she says their address was already public information — which anybody could just Google.

    ‘Nuff said.

  145. wordsalad2009
    May 23, 2014 at 1:22 PM

    Stutzman at the Orlando Sentinel has picked up the updated information about GZ’s parents’ lawsuit against Roseanne Barr:

    OS 20140522

    What feels ‘conspicuously’ absent from this piece is the factoid that, per an interview with Stutzman, R&G Z had already ‘fled’ their home two weeks prior to Barr re-tweeted their address:

    OS 20120315

    10:42 p.m. EST, March 15, 2012

    By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel

    …Both Zimmerman families have moved out of their homes, at least temporarily, Robert Zimmerman said, because they’ve received death threats…

  146. wordsalad2009
    May 24, 2014 at 4:16 PM

    The Daily Mail gets it right:

    Daily Mail 20140522

    The lawsuit alleges that Barr’s tweets forced them to leave their home in the middle of the night and go into hiding.

    However the Orlando Sentinel has reported that the date in the lawsuit – March 29, 2012 – does not correlate with what Zimmerman Sr. told them in a March 15, 2012, interview.

    In that interview he said that he and his wife had already moved out of their home and gone into hiding because of death threats.

    But then there is this:

    Their son did not live with them and they didn’t they have anything to do with the shooting, they point out.

    After they were notified that their son has committed homicide, perhaps a good course of conduct would have been to issue a simple statement to the press that they were shocked, extend their sympathy to Trayvon Martin’s family–and then shut their pie holes.

    But they didn’t do that, did they?

  147. wordsalad2009
    May 25, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    Hat tip to Xena at her blackbutterfly7 wordpress blog for this link to a story about the tragedy in Isla Vista, CA:

    News One 20140524

    See, this is how you act when you learn that a relative of yours has killed someone:

    The Rodger family offers their deepest compassion and sympathy to the families involved in this terrible tragedy. We are experiencing the most inconceivable pain, and our hearts go out to everybody involved…

  148. wordsalad2009
    May 27, 2014 at 12:58 PM

    Some of the commentary on the Isla Vista, CA killings is almost as troubling as the facts are:

    Washington Post 20140527

    Elliot Rodger was clearly not well, but I think that was exacerbated and complicated by various factors.

    First of all, his parents were divorced, and like many divorced parents, I suspect they tried to compensate by over-indulging him with material goods. It probably didn’t help that his parents were part of America’s ‘dream factory,’ Hollywood.

    When his mother became alarmed, notified the police, and they checked on him, they didn’t find any ‘red flags,’ and unfortunately, that may have been because of his intelligence: he was smart enough to put on a convincing show of normalcy.

    What disturbs me (besides the facts of the killings) is the musings on Rodger’s alleged autism, and how that might have factored into him becoming killer.

    Already, there are alarmists (admittedly, mostly lay people) who are asking whether Aspies (Asperger Syndrome ‘sufferers’) are ticking time bombs.

    Um, I don’t think so.

    To borrow a pun from Meyers-Briggs theorists, most Aspies are more likely to become cereal killers than serial killers.

  149. wordsalad2009
    May 28, 2014 at 2:17 PM

    Maya Angelou died today:

    nola dot com 20140528

    I recall watching some time in the last couple-three decades an interview of Angelou by Bryant Gumbel, and feeling slightly outraged, because it was my perception that Gumbel was patronizing her.

    I was still relatively young at the time, and wondered why she didn’t she take his head off at the shoulders. Now, with some more years on me, I realize that Angelou was a “woman of a certain age” (as the French would say), and probably too secure in herself as a person to bother.

    Rest in peace, Marguerite.

  150. wordsalad2009
    May 28, 2014 at 8:14 PM

    An interesting article about the NRA trying to make a ‘scapegoat’ of mental-illness:

    Salon 20140528

  151. wordsalad2009
    May 29, 2014 at 10:10 PM

    Man, is Pakistan some kind of nightmarish, twisted alter-ego of sixteenth century England (a so-called ‘paradise’ of women)?:

    Oxford Reference dot com

    Reuters 20140529

    (Reuters) – Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif demanded to know on Thursday why police stood by while a pregnant woman was beaten to death by her family in front of one of the country’s top courts.

    Farzana Iqbal, 25, was killed by a group of attackers, including her father, on Tuesday because she had married the man she loved and prompted the anger of her family.

    An investigation into the case showed that her husband had earlier killed his first wife, said a source in Sharif’s administration.

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