Archive for January, 2013

BCClist diaspora, part 2

January 23, 2013 252 comments

A new thread to continue the general discussion, trying to keep the thread lengths managable…

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Let’s make an SPD file!

January 23, 2013 21 comments

The purpose of this thread is to collect everything we know or can find out about the SPD officers and State officials who responded to the Trayvon Martin shooting, WITH CITATIONS of sources! I’m talking about Timothy Smith, Ricardo Ayala, Michael Wagner, Jonathan Mead, Bill Lee and Norm Wolfinger (did I forget anyone?) The purpose, of course, is to compile evidence relating to a possible police cover-up in support of George Zimmerman’s claim of self-defense. I’m not so much interested in Chris Serino or Doris Singleton, except as their reports or statements reflect on the actions of the others, and the timing of those actions.

For example, IIRC, it was reported somewhere that Smith’s initial report did not include the language about GZ having a wet grass stained back, and he revised the report to include this, but also IIRC the earliest written report from Smith in the discovery docs does contain this wording. So what’s the source for the report on the earlier version of his report?

All the posts in this thread should either pose (hopefully) answerable questions about these folks, and/or answers to those questions with some sort of documentation. General discussion of the case should continue on the general thread(s).

More ‘for example’s: what evidence exists that Robert Z Sr. may have known Wolfinger from their days at the Pentagon? What are the specifics of Wolfinger’s involvement in the decision not to charge GZ? IIRC there are reports he was at the scene at RATL, but he claims those reports are false. Someone else from his office may have been there, or he merely may have been contacted. But what are the who and when?

Did GZ have a prior relationship with Lee? Had they met?

Yada, Yada. I think you get the idea.

Over at the Leatherman Lounge,on MLK day I posted a YouTube of Bob Dylan (nee Zimmerman) singing ‘The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carrol,” and not one person made a comment. Do none of them know the song, or are none of them curious enough to listen to a 7 minute clip, or are they just uninterested in a protest song from the Civil Rights struggle that suggests  the individual well-connected racist criminal is far less worrisome than the racist justice system that lets him off with a slap on the wrist?

William Zanzinger killed poor Hattie Carroll
With a cane that he twirled around his diamond ringed finger
At a Baltimore hotel society gath’rin’
And the cops were called in and his weapon took from him
As they rode him in custody down to the station
And booked William Zanzinger for first-degree murder
But you who philosophize disgrace and criticize all fears
Take the rag away from your face
Now ain’t the time for your tears.

William Zanzinger who had twenty-four years
Owns a tobacco farm of six hundred acres
With rich wealthy parents who provide and protect him
And high office relations in the politics of Maryland
Reacted to his deed with a shrug of his shoulders
And swear words and sneering and his tongue it was a’ snarling
And in a matter of minutes on bail was out walking
But you who philosophize disgrace and criticize all fears
Take the rag away from your face
Now ain’t the time for your tears.

Hattie Carroll was a maid in the kitchen
She was fifty-one years old and gave birth to ten children
Who carried the dishes and took out the garbage
And never sat once at the head of the table
And didn’t even talk to the people at the table
Who just cleaned up all the food from the table
And emptied the ashtrays on the whole lower level
Got killed by a blow, lay slain by a cane
That sailed through the air and came down through the room
Doomed and determined to destroy all the gentle
And she never done nothin’ to William Zanzinger
And you who philosophize disgrace and criticize all fears
Take the rag away from your face
Now ain’t the time for your tears.

In the courtroom of honor, the judge pounded his gavel
To show that all’s equal and that the courts are on the level
And that the strings in the books ain’t pulled and persuaded
And that even the nobles get properly handled
Once that the cops have chased after and caught ’em
And that ladder of law has no top and no bottom
Stared at the person who killed for no reason
Who just happened to be feelin’ that way without warnin’
And he spoke through his cloak, most deep and distinguished
And handed out strongly, for penalty and repentance
William Zanzinger with a six-month sentence
Ah, but you who philosophize disgrace and criticize all fears
Bury the rag deep in your face
For now’s the time for your tears.

So this thread is not about the contemporary Zanzinger, but the ladder of law in Seminole County, and exactly who made up the rungs, how and when.

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BCClist Diaspora

January 3, 2013 268 comments

This post is just to create a new comment thread for people from BCClist, where NLME hasn’t opened a new thread in months, and the page is getting very slow to load. I’ve changed the WordPress settings for comments, for now anyway, so only your first post to this blog will require moderation.  Happy New Year!

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The whonoze blog WILL return in 2013

January 3, 2013 4 comments

I’ve been busy unloading crap from my hoarder house and preparing for a cross-country move. I have a number of things, old and new, regarding the Martin case I want to write posts about. But the sort of full work-up I want to maintain with posts here has been beyond me lately. Subjects to come will include:
• A revisiting of the security footage of George Zimmerman arriving at the Sanford Police Station, and why and how so many people got what it shows (or rather doesn’t show) so very wrong. It’s not topical, but it remains a prime example of the misunderstanding and misuse of video evidence.

• A video presentation of the security videos from the clubhouse at The Retreat, including tchoupi’s analysis of how “light events” reveal the path of George Zimmerman’s truck, with a time clock showing when these events occurred, and with the security footage accompanied by Zimmerman’s call to the police, and selected portions of the 911 calls added to the soundtrack and also synced to the clock. This will reveal the temporal relationships between different bits of evidence, which so far have mainly been considered individually, rather than in relation to one another. Putting them all together will, I believe, present a more complete perspective of the events surrounding the shooting than we have seen to date.

• An analysis of the photo showing George Zimmerman’s bloody nose, taken at the scene by Ofc. Wagner. Having investigated this photo, I have concluded it has been altered with Photoshop or some similar photo editing software to exaggerate the appearance of Zimmerman’s injuries. If I am correct, this would be definitive evidence of police corruption in the case, since the photo as released to the public has only been in the hands of the Sanford police, the FDLE, and the State Attorney’s office.

• An analysis of disparities between Witness 11’s 911 call, and her and her partner Jeremy’s (W20) statements to the police.

None of this will appear real soon. I hope the clubhouse security camera will be done by 2/1/2013, but if wishes were horses…

Until we blog again, my friends…

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